Border wall prototypes going up near San Diego. Border wall prototypes going up near San Diego.

Environment officials plan to oppose wall

Arguments have been prepared against Donald Trump's border wall

Mexico is set to oppose United States President Donald Trump’s border wall on environmental grounds. But the debate will not begin until the wall’s construction is confirmed.

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Environment and Natural Resources Secretary Rafael Pacchiano Alamán said this week it was clear that the project could cause considerable environmental damage.

Construction of eight prototypes for the border wall began September 26 in San Diego, California. Six contractors from across the U.S. were selected for the process, which is expected to take about 30 days.

Four of the prototypes are to be built out of concrete while other materials will be used for the other four. The walls are to range between 5.5 and 9 metres high and must succeed in one prevailing goal: “deter illegal crossings in the area in which they are constructed.”

Once built they will be tested by the Department of Homeland Security, which will pay between US $300,000 and $500,000 for each one.

Testing will be based on the walls’ capacity for “anti-scaling, anti-climbing, anti-digging and safety of border patrol agents,” said Tekae Michael of the U.S. Border Patrol.

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Several of the prototypes have been erected.

Mexico’s environment secretary said his department has the necessary environmental arguments against the project.

“We will first wait for it to become a reality, and there is still a lot yet to be done; we’ve got all the arguments ready concerning the effects it would have . . . .” said Pacchiano, observing there would be an environmental impact on about 1,000 kilometers of the border.

He also said there are international organizations that have been kept informed of the border wall and that they would collaborate with Mexico.

The wall was a major campaign promise for Trump, who has also insisted that Mexico will pay for it. Mexico has expressed its opposition to the project and rejected the notion that it would pay.

Source: El Sol de Tijuana (sp), NPR (en), WREG (en)

VIDEO: Border wall prototypes being erected on Sunday in California.

 

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  • From South of the Border

    Let the government of Mexico and the international busy bodies make their arguments all they want. As long as the wall is built on U.S. soil we can ignore the Mexican government and the busy bodies. The international left is going to go nuts, but this is long overdue. If the Mexican government didn’t want this response they should have cooperated on the border now they will have to live with the consequences. The American people will get the last word on this not the Mexican government or any international busy bodies. The U.S. constitution is still sovereign the last time I checked not international crappy law within the borders of the U.S., and the conservative U.S. Supreme Court will back up the president and the American people. GOOD LUCK Mexican government, NOT!

    • David Nichols

      The Mexican government lives in fear of the day that the Mexican citizenry, dissatisfied and disgusted with their treatment, and unable to flee to the USA, take up their machetes and head for DF…

      • From South of the Border

        David, Good analysis!! That will be whatever president who is in power at the times problem!! As I said above the U.S. Constitution and the authority of the American people will win out here the Mexican government can make all the noise it wants. The Mexican government is getting exactly what it deserves a few macheted Mexican politicians would give the others pause to behave like a human being not a slobbering corrupt beast. The U.S. has its own problems without getting Mexico’s as well.

        • Stray heart

          Any grudge against anyone should not be taken out by calling fellow human beasts! You say you are an american? Ha! You are a cruel person who doesn’t care about anyone else.

    • gypsyken

      All polls show that most Americans do not support building a border wall, and most of “the American people” do not support the monster who occupies the White House, for whom most voters did not vote. The Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court that has become just another political body may well support the monster, but that obviously does not mean that they are thereby supporting “the American people,” because most of them do not support the monster. He must be gotten rid of by any means available.

      • From South of the Border

        Hi Ken, Are these the same polls that showed Trump was going to lose by a landslide and he won by the Electoral College which is how the presidency is won not by popular vote!! The election is 50 separate elections and the electoral vote is what matters! I know leftists such as yourself disagree with the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, but until the Constitution is changed(never) you have to play by the rules Trump did and he won. Sorry, better luck next time, NOT!!
        Ken you wrote” He must be gotten rid of by any means available”. Are you advocating violence? Are you advocating killing anyone? If so maybe the secret service would like a dime dropped on you. You seem to be a real extremist! Remember Lincoln didn’t win the full popular vote the first time and he was called similar names you and your ilk are calling Trump!! You are a sore loser and I think I will drop said dime it might serve you right to keep your tongue to yourself.. Left wing rif, raf!!

        • Stray heart

          You’re boasting because you think you are safe behind that screen. You will be surprised how many hold something against you. I’d watch your mouth before someone gets hurt.

          • From South of the Border

            No one put me in charge, but I have a right to my opinion! People can only take so much abuse and then things happen. Look at history at the French revolution, Russian revolution, the Mexican revolution of 1910. Just a few examples of when people are pushed to far. Do I advocate for such a situation of course not, but when you push people sooner or later they push back that is all that I was saying in my post, before. By the way I don’t know where you come from, but where I come from everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as they don’t start violence and I believe, if you look on this board you will find that nowhere here have I ever advocated violence. Who gave me the right to curse these people out the right of someone who has watched people used as wage slaves here. How about a student of mine who was told when she got into work that she will be needed to work from 8 am to 11 pm with a half an hour for lunch. She was told, if she didn’t want to work the extra hours that day she could clean out her desk and leave and lose her job. This women is a single mother. This is known as wage SLAVERY! That is who/what gave me the right to curse these people. A job paying $15,000 pesos a month in an office where this person usually works 10 to 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes works 8 am to 11 pm 15 hours for the day and the government looks the other way.
            Every person has the right to express their own views as long as they don’t act out those views in a violent manner, so yes I’ll continue to give my opinion here on the Mexico Daily News blog. Try to intimidate someone else I will not be silenced. To be silent is to be part of what is happening I won’t be silenced. People have a right to a decent wage and life, but of course your a part of the online Gestapo or KGB, remember what happened to both organizations they both ended up in the ash heap of history, they usually do!! So to will cyber bullies who can’t have a civil discussion without threatening people with violence. If you don’t like what I’m saying don’t read what I’m writing.

      • Stray heart

        I see what you’re saying, and I agree on the most part, but violence such as killing is never the choice to make.

  • Mike S

    Lets see:

    58% of Americans polled say they oppose a border wall

    50% of undocumented Mx residents in US came in legally & are “over stays” & most plan on eventually returning

    number of undocumented residents from Mx living in US has been steadily declining last 9 years.

    violent crime rate of undocumented Mx residents is half US average

    there has never been one terrorist entering the US by land from Mx

    undocumented residents from Asia are the fastest group of illegal immigrants

    wall will be an ecological and environmental disaster

    If Trump really wants to slow new arrivals, all he has to do is turn ICE on employers who hire illegal immigrants and create a biometric employment ID with documentation the same as needed for a passport. He needs the wall to feed the fear and bigotry of his base.

    • GOPerson

      Most of your ‘facts’ are fake news and where do you get off calling people bigots? You are just one of those vile, hateful Democrats whose answer to loosing an election is burning cars, breaking windows and looting businesses.

      • Mike S

        Anarchists are not Democrats nor Republicans. All my facts are verifiable. Trump is a full blown narcissist. Pathological lying usually goes along with narcissism because because they consider themselves perfect and infallible; they can not handle criticism so they must deny the truth of their critics. Numerous fact checking organizations such as

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.675fb8a7dba0

        http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/trumps-transition-of-untruths-exaggerations-and-flat-out-falsehoods-214664

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

        http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

        keep lists of his lies and exaggerations:

        • From South of the Border

          Mike S., Barkfeather and Ken, You can list as many left wing lame stream news websites you want I am an historian with a PHD in American history and I also teach 3 languages. I know what I have learned over the years. I know how the left ignores what isn’t in their political echo chamber and how they throw unwarranted allegations like Russia, Russia, Russia. Where is the proof there is none and there won’t be, because you talk about dog whistles Russia has become the lefts dog whistle. You accuse Trump of making himself and his family richer proof please and I want chapter and verse not just some vague Washington Post article with unnamed sources. By the way he never claimed his crowd was the largest he just said it was bigger than what the lame stream media was claiming find me a full news clips where he claims his was the biggest in history, sorry the clip doesn’t exist.
          Ken, If you get a knock at your door you’ll know why you keep on saying “by any means available” you do know that that could entail violence and that is illegal to threaten the president of the U.S. Maybe all of you will one day 10 years from now meet up in the U.S. losers club as Mike Pence nears his first year in the White House and as what happened with Reagan you can all spend a few days with bad hangovers still not understanding how Trump won and your Hillary and whoever else lost 2 elections to Trump and then one to Pence.
          The problem for you and the rest of the left is that Trump is a master at planning and making moves you and yours are so far behind him that he could sleep for 6 months and still sleep walk to victory in 2020. He spent less than 200 million dollars on his entire campaign from June16, 2015 to November 8, 2016 and Hillary spent over 1.1 billion dollars and she lost, get over it ladies and get ready for the next election you’ll need help with over 25 plus democrat senate seats up for grabs, as I’ve said, before Good Luck, NOT!!

          • Mike S

            Just curious are your degrees from Trump University and do you teach at Liberty University?So I guess for someone like you- Faux News, Limbaugh and his clones, and Breitbart are reliable news sources???? I’ll take the NYTimes, WashPo, CNN, WSJ, Foreign Policy, etc any day. Your so called “facts” are bogus exaggerations.. Large majority of people with advanced degrees do not support Trump and do believe in climate change. I am not saying Billary was not a weak candidate with lots of baggage and didn’t have a sleazy husband, but that is all history. Trump is the story now and he is unfit to be president…period. The jury is still out on the Trump-Putin election connection so we will just have to wait and see what Robert Mueller comes up with. Robert Meuller was former head of FBI, had a sterling military career, was a former federal DA, & has an Ivy League education, He was picked as special council for the DOJ to investigate that connection and was strongly approved by both sides of the aisle for the job. He is well trusted. Everybody will trust his conclusions so maybe you should be quiet until he issues his report. Firing James Comey was awful suspicious and may have amounted to obstruction of justice. Trump is a one term disaster if he makes it that long. House will probably stay barely GOP because of all the gerrymandering. Senate is anybody’s guess even though this cycle heavily favors GOP. Pence is a religious fundamentalist and I doubt the whole country is ready for that.

          • Dennis Hoppe

            One thing that you are all forgetting. It has always been since the beginning of civilization the rich against the poor and in the U.S. the middle class also, since we are lucky to have a middle class compared to many countries which only have the Rich and the Poor.

          • Commander Barkfeather

            Sorry, I simply don’t believe you. Don’t feel bad–when he practices his braggadocio, I don’t believe Trump either. Watching “Ancient Aliens From The Bible” on the Discovery Channel does not make one an historian. And although I am rarely a stickler for such things, your syntax and rather cavalier attitude towards punctuation make it obvious that English is not one of the three languages you claim to teach. In firing James Comey because Comey would not back off investigating Michael Flynn, Trump obstructed justice. That’s a fact and will prove to be his undoing. In scheduling all diplomatic events at Mar-A-Lago, he is personally enriching himself by taking advantage of his position. But these are not things that I really object to. Neither does it bother me that much that he is an inveterate liar (his tax returns will be coming after the audit), exhibits boorish and misogynistic behavior, or is intellectually uncurious. What I do object to is that he is so utterly bourgeois.

          • Mike S

            Trump campaign spent $340 million and Clinton $580 million. Vast amounts were indirectly spent by outside groups like NRA and Koch brothers. Hillary had a tougher challenge from Sanders than Trump had from Cruz. The mainstream media thinking an entertaining conman and unfit disaster like Trump would easily be defeated by Clinton, gave the Trump “realty TV” campaign hundreds of millions more than Clinton in free publicity. Clinton got 48.2% of the vote and Trump 46.1%. The electoral college, originally put in place to protect slave states, distorted the outcome just as it did for “Bush the moron” in 2000 and now we have this disaster. He will be gone in 2020 if not sooner. Putin wanted Trump badly to weaken NATO and the US in general. His operatives probably swayed 2% of the vote. The electoral college was decided in Trump’s favor by just 70k votes in three normally blue states (Mich, PA, Wis).

      • Commander Barkfeather

        There are none so blind as those who will not see. “Fake news,” like the “Liberal Media” is simply an internet meme used for shutting down debate. Mike’s facts are spot on and verifiable and your response is to cover your ears and cry “Did not! Did not!” Here are some further facts for you to mull over: The US, like most of the rest of the world, is waking up to the fact that Trump used the fear and bigotry of his base, and a little “really fake news,” from his Russkie friends to steal an election and STILL could not win the popular vote. Trump, like Nixon, is developing a “bunker mentality,” isolated from reality under the protection of John Kelly and James Mattis; it cannot be sustained. He has promoted victimhood and racial grievance among his base. He uses his office to personally enrich himself and his family. He physically threatens his political opponents. He is easily the worst President ever “appointed,” and will not last out his term.

        • gypsyken

          Trump does not merely have “a ‘bunker mentality,’ isolated from reality.: As documented in “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,” written by psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health experts, he does not have a grasp of reality, period. He has what is called a solipsistic view of reality, which means that he sees reality only as it satisfies his malignant narcissistic needs. That is why, to cite one simple example, he has insisted–and insisted that his press spokesman insist–that his inauguration crowd was the largest in history, despite photos showing that it was not. He simply has to believe that his inauguration crowd was the largest one in history, so that is what it was, according to him. Similarly, he believes that he is the smartest person in the world, has the highest IQ, is the only one who knows how to fix the world’s problems, etc. He is, therefore, far too dangerous, to the U.S.and to the world, to be in the White House, and he must be removed, by any means available, before he starts WW III.

      • Mike S

        Bigot….what else can you call a man who got his national political start as the “birther-in-chief” telling lie after lie and offering a million dollar reward for anyone who could prove Obama’s birth certificate fake? What else do you call a man who took out full page ads calling for the execution of 5 black men for a rape they did not commit in Central Park and to this day has not apologized after they spent 10 years in jail and DNA evidence proved their innocence and the real culprit confessed??
        What else do you call a man who labels Mexicans rapists and criminals? What else do you call a man who equivocated Nazis and KKK with protesters in Charlottesville? What else do you call a man whose father was a full blown racist and taken to court for housing discrimination? That else do you call Trump’s constant racist dog whistle during his campaign and Bannon and Miller’s call to white nationalism?

  • GOPerson

    Mexico has built a wall on it’s Guatemala border but screams if the US builds one. Hypocrites !!!

    • From South of the Border

      GOPerson, You are so right and that is why the wall will be built and people like a leftist friend Ken above will be bouncing off the walls of their houses as Trump keeps on winning.. It is a real funny thing to watch these unhinged leftists calling a president of the U.S.a monster or Hitler. These babies have no idea who Hitler was, because, if they did they’d feel so stupid for such dumb remarks and statements. No, president of the U.S. could or should ever be described as or with Hitler, Hitler is in his own category. This goes for both political parties such a description is just plain dumb or insane!!

  • gypsyken

    I hope that there are enough rational people in the U.S. Congress to not spend money on building a border wall in the face of important unmet needs, such as the millions of Americans who do not have access to health care. The ultimate solution, however, must be to get rid of, one way or another, the monster that occupies the White House.

    • From South of the Border

      Ken, Again the dime is being dropped enjoy!!

      • gypsyken

        Neither threats nor marches by white supremacists, American Nazis, or the KKK will end the movement to remove the monster from the White House.

        • From South of the Border

          Ken, No American president should be called a monster.. I don’t care if, they are a democrat or a republican. The words you use belong in a school yard where the bully beats everybody up for their lunch money or, if they don’t agree with him about something! First the KKK has less than 10,000 members nation wide and most of those dovetail with the so called Nazis. They are no threat to the stability of the nation or the government. From your side of the spectrum Antifa is at best an annoyance. I remember your kind in 1980 and I remember people saying nothing would stop them from removing Ronald Reagan from the White House well they failed and so will you, because as more jobs are created Trump’s voters grow in states like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and more. The next election he will probably win both the electoral college and the popular vote. You see when Obama was in the White House the right went to vote we lost, so we tried again in 2016 we one fair and square according to the rules in the U.S. Constitution better luck, next time, NOT! By the way the president will be making his choice of which model of the wall will be built next month construction begins in either February or March of next year right now old fencing is being upgraded and repaired, so the process has begun and you and your friends won’t be able to stop it!! MAGA!!

          • gypsyken

            I call Trump a monster because that’s what he is. Respect must be deserved, and the monster deserves none, nor do his supporters. As to your predictions, we’ll see. If the monster is not removed from office, our attention may well be diverted by World War III.

          • From South of the Border

            Ken, Unlike you I respect everyone I meet until they give me a reason not to. As far as WW 3 I don’t know where your coming up with that nugget of nonsense. I haven’t seen one thing he has done that would cause a World War! Maybe a war in Korea, but that would be a quick war with Kim Jung Un losing in a matter of days. Yes, People will die, but you can’t allow a loose cannon fire missiles over Japan or South Korea. You over dramatize everything and that is why people are ignoring these hysterical rants after almost a year. I’ll make one last prediction I’ve spent enough wasted time talking to progressives who are born with permanent ideological blinders on. The prediction Trump will be as successful as Reagan and I wouldn’t be surprised, if he is even more successful than Reagan. By the way the left is once again laughing as they laughed at Reagan and Reagan basically won 3 elections 1980, 1984 and 1988. I would beware of a historical repeat, if I were the leftists in America. America by its very nature and history is a right of center nation. Again Good Luck, NOT..

          • gypsyken

            Whether or not Reagan was a successful president is, of course, a matter of opinion, with ideological conservatives maintaining that he was. I lived through the Reagan era, and in my opinion he was best described as what I think Arthur Schlesinger called him: an amiable dunce. His decision making was influenced by his wife’s reliance on astrology, and the effects of his subsequently-revealed Alzheimer’s became apparent at least during his second term. As the current occupant of the White House demonstrates, electoral success may not be an indicator of intellectual ability or character. Consider also another favorite of conservatives, Nixon, who was removed from office.

          • From South of the Border

            Well, Many objective observers say something why don’t you name names, so that we can all judge whether these observers are so objective in their outlooks and assessments. By the way who started WW 2, maybe Bolivia or Argentina or South Africa attacked Pearl Harbor or maybe YES, it was the Japanese attacking between 7 am and 9 am on a Sunday morning. No declaration of war at least Hitler gave us the courtesy of a formal declaration of war. They bombed as families were walking to church and machine gunned women and children, so don’t give me the tears about what happened to Japan. They started the fight they dropped the first bombs.
            As I said above the Japanese were warned ahead of time of the weapon and they did nothing at all except not even an answer of lets talk. It is so transparent that you’d rather have 200,000 plus dead American soldiers than the Japanese die. Again it goes to your hatred of the U.S. and everything it stands for.
            It is was important to have a great man in the presidency, both at the beginning of the war FDR and then at the end of the war Harry S. Truman. Just, because someone failed in business and became a politician doesn’t give you the right to belittle such a man. Truman was a working class guy with a high school education, but yet he is usually in the top 15 presidents of the U.S. and these ratings are done by both left and right leaning historians unlike your so called Objective Observers above. Guys like Truman who lost their chance at a college education, because they had to take care of their family. Yes, Truman was a machine politician he needed a job during the depression, so the machine in Kansas City hired him at first to drive the boss Tom Pendergast around eventually he became a Judge and later a Senator. but he got involved in politics, because he needed a job to feed his family at the beginning of the depression, but of course you to you perfect leftists Truman was a mass murderer, which is bull.
            Look who is talking about intellectual ability and character a person who won’t even try to refute my historical information. I’ll take a blue collar guy like Harry Truman over a gutless has been like Obama. Without guys like Truman Obama would never have had a chance at the White House. You can through all the MUD you want its easy to wash off and to continue to see the world as it is and not through Rose Colored Glasses!
            As far as real leadership, the president who supposedly had alzheimers disease certainly brought the Soviet Union to its knees. If you remember, but I doubt you do in 1992 Reagan gave a speech, before the Republican National Convention revealing that he had been diagnosed with early symptoms of alzheimers disease. That is in the summer of 1992. He released his medical records at that time showing he was diagnosed in January, 1992 almost 3 years after he had left the White House. He released his records, because leftist like you tried to say that he had alzheimers while he was president. The diagnosis stated the symptoms were so new that he couldn’t have had the disease for anymore than 6 to 8 months, before the diagnosis, so much for trying to tar and feather one of the top 10 presidents in the history of the U.S.
            I’d rather have a Reagan, Truman, FDR, IKE et al any day over the Obama disaster. You see with Obama in December, 1941 he would have wanted to talk to see what we had done wrong he would have given the Japanese everything they wanted just like he did with Iran. As for the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania ave. he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania’s The Wharton School with honors, so he isn’t such a light weight after all. As for showing off the atom bombs, there is no proof of this. Show me one piece of evidence that gives everyone such proof. Well, I know you want to get back to your left wing Looney Tune ideology, so good LUCK!!

          • gypsyken

            See the sources cited in Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the U.S. and in Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick’s The Untold History of the United States, though I recognize that you will give them no credence, because they are not right-wing ideologues that you pledge allegiance to. It takes at least two countries to have a war, and the U.S. had been goading Japan for some time before the war began, renouncing trade agreements, embargoing gasoline, steel, etc. (WW II would not have occurred if the winners of WW I had treated Germany differently.) The Japanese who you say machine gunned women and children in Honolulu were not the people the U.S. incinerated with atom bombs. (By your reasoning, the North Vietnamese would have been justified in Killing civilians in the U.S., because U.S. pilots bombed women and children in their country.) Perhaps you don’t know that the U.S. has never declared war since WW II, although it has gone to war against North Korea, China, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc., with Iran now in the offing. As to the monster at Wharton, one of The Donald’s former professors said that he was the dumbest student he ever had: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/12/1705902/-Former-Wharton-Professor-Donald-Trump-Is-the-Dumbest-Goddam-Student-I-Ever-Had?detail=emaildkre. Of course he’s probably just another leftist who doesn’t recognize the fact that the monster is actually the smartest person in the world, has the highest IQ, etc. (It’s a pity most of the world doesn’t recognize that, either.) I note that your white supremacist racist monster hero began his political career by claiming that black Obama was an illegitimate president because he was born in Kenya, not the U.S. Are you taking that route, too? (I assume you’re living among Mexicans, though the monster also doesn’t like them, or Puerto Ricans, for that matter.)

          • gypsyken

            The Quote of the Day, by conservative Republican columnist George Will in The Washington Post: “Trump’s energy, unleavened by intellect and untethered to principle, serves only his sovereign instinct to pander to those who adore him as much as he does.”

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sinister-figures-lurk-around-our-careless-president/2017/10/13/09c9448c-af6e-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.a77f02426308&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

          • Dennis Hoppe

            I just saw a rating of famous peoples IQ’s. Trump was rated at 156. That would be far from being the dumbest student any professor could have. Even so, I am not much of a fan of Trump. We are very fortunate to have 3 branches of government instead of just one.

          • gypsyken

            Snopes, a respected fact-checking organization, says that the claim that the monster has an IQ of 156 is false: “Donald Trump’s true intelligence quotient is unknown, but the article published by BeforeItsNews.com certainly does not document that it is 156 — or any other score” (http://www.snopes.com/donald-trumps-intelligence-quotient/). Vocabulary is a key indicator of intelligence–a test of vocabulary is an important part of tests of intelligence–and, having administered hundreds of such tests, the monster’s vocabulary certainly doesn’t suggest an IQ of 156. A list of U.S. presidents by IQ published in 2001 was revealed to be a hoax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Presidential_IQ_hoax).

          • gypsyken

            Your callous dismissal of the deaths of people who will die (“yes, people will die”) if the monster attacks North Korea is appalling, but expected from a conservative. I am reminded of the Congressman whose name I have forgotten who said that of course people will be killed if North Korea is attacked, but they won’t be Americans. Beyond that, if the monster attacks North Korea, do you think that China and Russia will simply stand by and do nothing? That is how WW III can start. The U.S. is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons, and it used them to incinerate civilians–men, women, and children–not on military targets. How does that give the U.S. the moral authority to decide who may, and who may not, have nuclear weapons? Does U.S. might always make the U.S. right? I don’t think that the rest of the world will answer that in the affirmative.

          • From South of the Border

            Ken, You are truly a rotten person. First lets deal with the use of the atom bombs on Japan! At Potsdam a diplomatic note was sent to Japan via the Russians, they were told in no uncertain terms what kind of weapon the U.S. had and they were told they had about a month to surrender. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened, because of 2 things one the war department based on the deaths of soldiers on Tarawa, Iwo Jima and Okinawa predicted that a direct attack on Japan having to invade several islands would cost between 225,000 to 255,000 dead American soldiers. The second cause was Japan’s refusal to surrender especially after the bombing of most of the major cities of Japan. They were warned and they kept on fighting. Even after the first bomb was dropped they kept on fighting.
            I don’t know about you Ken, but my father fought in the Pacific during that war he was one of the soldiers that would have been involved in invasion of Japan, there was at least a 25 to 50% chance he could die in said invasion. By the way many Japanese civilians would have died as well. It is a simple, but tough decision made by Truman better Japanese die than Americans die and I concur with that decision call me callous or any other word you want to use, but my father’s life may have been saved by that decision and I’ll forever be grateful to President Harry S. Truman for making that very difficult decision which until he died in 1972 he always said he’d do the same thing again to end the war and save American lives. Sorry, but no apologies for the dropping of those 2 bombs.
            By the way officially we are still at war with N. Korea and if you know anything about China right now she has virtually given us the green light to take out Kim Jung Un, if he doesn’t cease and stop his trouble making. Secondly Putin is to bogged down in the eastern Ukraine and Syria to go asking for trouble somewhere else. Whether you like it or not every nation from Akkad to Today including Rome and Britain that has been the number one power has always made these types of decisions, if they were able.
            Ken, Lets just leave it at this you hate the U.S. and the founding fathers and the U.S. Constitution. You demonstrate this in every word you write in every venomous way you attack the U.S. Is the U.S. perfect no no country is, but I’ll take the U.S. running things over Nazi Germany, Japan of WW2, Soviet Union or today China. With your pussy footing around president Germany would have developed the bomb, before us and the Soviet Union would still be around. Whether you like it or not there is evil in the world, will all of the U.S.’s decisions be right of course not, but I’ll take any U.S. presidents decisions any day including Donald J. Trump than over Hitler, Stalin et al. You have very little knowledge of history and a little knowledge is very dangerous, especially when you don’t think about things. Would you rather Japan and Hitler win WW2 or the U.S. and Britain. You see its the U.S. making the decisions or its Hitler or Stalin you make your choice I’ll take history as it is. I trust that U.S. presidents are better to make these decisions instead of Hitler, Stalin et al. Grow up and see the WORLD AS IT IS, NOT AS YOU’D LIKE IT TO BE! This isn’t fantasy rose colored classes time.

          • gypsyken

            It doesn’t bother me at all to be called “a rotten person” by someone who says that it was OK to incinerate men, women, and children with atom bombs, and that the country that did that has the moral authority to decide who may, and may not, have such weapons. Many objective observers say, by the way, that the U.S. dropped the bombs not to end the war, but because Truman, the failed haberdashery store owner and machine politician, wanted to show Russia what a powerful weapon the U.S. had, sacrificing the Japanese men, women, and children to do that.

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