Trump's last tweet before this morning's phone call. Trump's last tweet before this morning's phone call.

EPN, Trump agree to button up over wall

Leaders agree during phone call not to speak publicly about controversial issue

An hour-long telephone call this morning has put a stop to the war of words over who is going to pay for a wall on the Mexico-United States border and thawed Mexico-U.S. relations after they chilled drastically in the last three days.

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President Enrique Peña Nieto and U.S. President Donald Trump agreed today they would no longer speak publicly about the controversial wall and instead resolve their differences through comprehensive discussions.

In a statement released following their telephone discussion, Peña Nieto’s office said both leaders “recognized their clear and very public differences over the sensitive issue, and agreed to resolve these differences as part of a comprehensive discussion of all aspects of the bilateral relationship.

“The presidents also agreed that for now they would not speak publicly about the issue.”

The conversation was arranged by the leaders’ staff, who were instructed to continue discussions regarding the relationship between Mexico and the U.S.

“The presidents had a constructive and productive conversation around the bilateral relationship . . . including the matter of the United States’ trade deficit with Mexico, the importance of the friendship between our nations and the need . . . to work together to stop the traffic in drugs and the movement of illegal arms.”

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The rift that already existed between the two countries widened on Wednesday after Trump signed an order to authorize the construction of the wall, one of his key election campaign promises.

Peña Nieto, under pressure to cancel a summit meeting scheduled for next week, replied by repeating once again that Mexico would not pay for the border wall. Trump replied on Twitter that perhaps the summit should be cancelled if Mexico wouldn’t pay.

Mexico’s president called off the meeting yesterday, prompting another tweet from Trump this morning.

“Mexico has taken advantage of the U.S. for long enough. Massive trade deficits & little help on the very weak border must change, NOW!” he wrote.

Just when it looked as if things would continue to worsen, an hour of dialogue saved the day.

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  • Mike S

    From WP:

    Trump’s secret plan to make Mexico pay for a border wall, revealed

    “Nobody seems happy about this.
    Donald Trump may not know much about policy, but 2016 showed that he had an intuitive sense for what the Republican base would find thrilling. One of the biggest applause lines in his rallies would come when he proclaimed his intention to build a great, big, beautiful wall along our southern border. “And who’s going to pay for it?” he’d ask. “Mexico!!!” the crowd would shout.

    The idea that Mexico would pay was always ludicrous, and now that Trump is actually president, he and his aides are discovering just how difficult it will be to follow through on this particular promise. So what’s going to happen? I have managed to obtain the secret Trump plan. Here it is:

    Build something that is kind of a wall, even though it’s really a wall only in a few places, but mostly a fence in other places, and some electronic surveillance in other places, and nothing at all in yet other places.
    Claim you’ve built the wall.
    Even though Mexico refuses to pay for it, find some fee or tax you can impose that relates to Mexico in some way, even if it’s a fraction of the cost of your sort-of-wall, and even if it’s paid by American taxpayers.
    Claim that Mexico paid for the wall.
    Victory!
    Okay, this isn’t the actual secret Trump plan, because as has become more than clear, there is no Trump plan. They’re flying by the seat of their pants. But it’s what’s going to happen.”

    • msdds1

      That already exists. There is boarder walls and fences.

    • GOPerson

      Do you mean something akin to the 20% VAT tax Mexico charges on products brought in from the US? It was explained to me as “import fees” yet the US doesn’t do that.

      • Mike S

        The VAT tax system used by Mexico, Canada, Europe and many other countries is very complex. In Mexico the maquiladora states pay 11%. Remember, the VAT system is used to fund government just as our income tax does. VAT taxes are applied to internal purchases as well as imported purchases so it is not a tariff. What Trump wants to do is lower taxes on the plutocracy, make up for it with tariffs, and have the middle class pay for it with higher priced goods. What a con artist.

        • GOPerson

          It used to be 11% but has recently be raised to 16% and if you think Mexico does not have an income tax, you are sadly mistaken.

          • Mike S

            A VAT tax is similar to a sales tax and is not a tariff. California has an 8% sales tax and an income tax. Mexico is a cash society and not a lot of income tax is collected. Pemex historically paid for a lot of government expenses. Property taxes are low. It is not for us to dictate how a country raises revenues. We can only argue if it is directed at US imports…then we could retaliate. If Chump says put a 20% tariff on Mexican goods, they will retaliate and a trade war will be on hurting both countries. Chump says he will give a big tax break to the plutocracy and then make up for it with tariffs that the middle class will pay with higher consumer costs.

  • Mela Pelaez

    EL MURO YA EXISTE ASI QUE YA NO HAY NADA QUE PAGAR……..

    UNIVISION NOTICIAS.
    México levanta un muro invisible: deporta a 9 de cada 10 centroamericanos que van a EEUU
    Las autoridades devolvieron al 96% de los guatemaltecos, al 92% de los hondureños y al 87% de los salvadoreños indocumentados detenidos entre enero y abril, según cálculos de Univision Data con base en cifras oficiales.

    Por: Patricia Vélez Santiago Alejandro Fernández Sanabria
    Publicado: jul 15, 2016 | 02:07 PM EDT

    Los miles de centroamericanos que huyen de la violencia e intentan llegar a Estados Unidos deben atravesar un muro invisible mucho más cerca de casa: la frontera sur de México.

    Nueve de cada 10 ciudadanos de El Salvador, Guatemala y Honduras presentados ante una autoridad migratoria en México fueron deportados en los primeros cuatro meses de este año, de acuerdo a un análisis de Univision Data con base en cifras de la Secretaría de Gobernación.

    En ese período, 43,506 ciudadanos de las naciones que conforman el llamado Triángulo Norte fueron devueltos a sus países desde territorio mexicano, reflejaron las cifras.

    • The U.S.-Mexico border wall is already one third constructed. Finish it. And Mexico needs a wall on its southern border. All nations need walls, and the more successful ones need them most of all.

      • Mike S

        You mean like the Berlin Wall or the Iron Curtain? All “walls” are not the same. Certainly when Western Europe torn down many of the barriers between countries after WW2, that produced a 70 year span of peace and prosperity between those countries; something they had not experienced for a thousand years. Restricting distant immigration from 7th century violent Muslim extremists might be a good idea, but a wall between Mexico and the US is a very bad idea. 40 million US citizen trace some of their heritage back to Mexico and Mexicans lived in the US long before white Europeans. Enforce labor hiring laws; allow guest worker programs; do not succumb to bigotry and scape goating.

        • Ah, there it is! The hoary old comparison with the Berlin Wall. Note: Berlin Wall to keep people IN, a prison wall. U.S. border wall, about a third done already, is to keep people OUT who do not have permission to enter legally. Totally different.

          As for your European walls, first there was the Iron Curtain, another prison wall, not comparable. When that fell, we had national borders, which are good. Then the EU idea, a bad idea, came along, but that’s going to fall too, which is good. Independent nations are good. A well-functioning nation is comparable to a family, a group of people with commonalities such as language, race, religion and culture. Multicultural societies are troubled, often violent, societies, not to be desired. I point to today’s U.S. as a classic example that’s getting worse by the day.

          As for U.S. citizens having Mexican heritage, so what? I have Scot heritage, but I don’t advocate giving Scots a pass around the visa requirement. Bogus argument, ole bean.

          As for Mexicans living in “the U.S.” long before white Europeans, Mexico had some sparse outposts in what is now the American Southwest, not much else, which is why Manifest Destiny took it away from them so easily.

          • Mike S

            No Felipe, The Iron Curtain was to both keep people in AND out. It didn’t work in the long run. I have no problem with establishing a fair and orderly legal flow of people into the US, but the truth is the GOP never allowed enforcement of labor hiring laws- they wanted a large supply of cheap and exploitable labor for higher profits and union busting. Those hard-working, long-term, law-abiding Mexicans who were lured north and established roots and had kids are our responsibility now. These are the people Chump says get wants to deport. Their violent crime rate is half the national average. Undocumented Mexican residents who physically crossed the border illegally comprise 3 million of the 10.5 million illegals- most long-term residents. That’s 1% of our overall population and really only in two states. Their contribution to our society and economy is huge. Their cultural contribution is wonderful. The undocumented population has been slowly declining the last 8 years as more border patrol and ICE agents have been hired so why is it now suddenly a problem that needs a $30 billion wall? It is a problem because Chump is a fear monger who has appealed to the bigotry of white hicks for votes who with no critical thinking skills and no passports. Population of California in 1850 was 90,000. There were 21 Spanish mission established to convert indigenous population and as agricultural centers. Mexican-Americans were a large % of the population then and now.

          • expatriate

            I can’t believe you said some of these things. You still believe in Manifest Destiny? God gave gringos the divine right to illegally invade a peaceful nation and blackmail it into surrendering half of its territory to get the foreign military of of its land? You support, 170 years later, the conspiracay of President Polk to invade and slaughter in the name of national expansion? And in an age when borders are disappearing in a more homogenized world, ythere comes along those like Trump — and you — to push civilization back again into the old us and them corruptive concepts.

          • mikegre

            Peaceful, maybe. Stupid, for sure…

            Mexico News Daily | Tuesday, December 6, 2016
            The results of the latest international student tests are out, with Mexican students continuing to languish at the bottom of the list of member countries of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.

            They obtained an average score of 416 points in the Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA, while across the OECD the average is 492.

            In the three areas assessed — sciences, reading and mathematics — fewer than 1% of students in Mexico achieved a top-performing level 5 or 6, a percentage that has not changed significantly since 2006.

            Students scored 416 points in science, on average, with a mean performance below the OECD average of 496.

            In reading, the average national score was 423 points, below the OECD average of 493.

            In the third subject, mathematics, Mexican students earned the lowest score of all 34 OECD countries with 408 points. The OECD average is 490.

          • expatriate

            You’re quite right, of course. Mexico’s education system has been contaminated by a corrupt teacher’s union that permits unqualified teachers to have lifetime posts. Mexico has consistently been in the basement of OECD scores and the unioon holds too many voting members for politicians dare to change things. Vicious cycle with sad results.

          • GOPerson

            ‘A homogenized world,’ how boring, you want everyone to be the same, dress the same. And yet when people come to the US, you encourage them to ‘keep your heritage and keep your culture.’ You sir, are a hypocrite.

          • expatriate

            You interpret a “homogenized world” with a Trumpish exaggeration. Years ago, one had to get their passport stamped at every border in Europe. Today it’s only at the entry point. The nations agreed to diminish the restrictions imposed by border mentalities and share the land and their currency. They still speak different languages, have individual cultures, conduct their unique governments, etc. That’s homogenizing nations — not the extreme version you stated. And by the way, how did hypocrisy come into this?

      • j_b_spence

        Who says walls don’t work?? China build the Great Wall 2000 years ago and not a single Mexican has crossed over.

  • K. Chris C.

    The extortion of Mexico goes private.

    An American citizen, not US subject.

  • dhusu

    HAHA the right is putting all their eggs in one basket with this stupid wall but hey, if it makes you feel safer… what would be more effective than a wall is extra border agents along the border, more vigilance across the board. Every day I come across a comment by some half star general fantasizing over drone strikes & SEAL teams with night vision goggles at the border lol what a joke..

  • Jim M. Ryles

    Hard times coming for Mexico.

  • msdds1

    I am surprised at the Mexican President and his willingness to lay down and play dead. I think he should stand up to this guy. He needs a few courses in Gaslighting and Narcissists. He is falling into Trumps hand.
    Just wait, Trump will tweet again and make him look bad.
    I think it will take Americans missing their Patron and Guac to feel the pressure.

    • Vlad the Impaler

      I honestly don’t think he(Nieto) played dead or Trump would be Tweeting something ridiculous. Maybe there are a few people that aren’t idiots left in the State Dept. after all.

  • Mike S
  • If he has agreed to ending his Twitter tirade against Mexico, then Trump has lost his key negotiating tool. Let me repeat … Trump has lost. Now watch his sycophantic supporter berate me. Trump’s Fascist allies are so predictable.

    • One good thing likely to come out of Trump is that Mexico’s left will increase their power. Mexico will seek new allies and trading partners and will find them with Bolivia, Ecuador, Cuba, and Nicaragua amongst other left and left leaning States. Trump is making the pariah status of the US more apparent.

      • Steve Galat

        Am sure you appreciate the asymmetry among your listed Trading Partners: US as compared with Bolivia, Ecuador, Cuba, Nicaragua. (You missed Suriname)

    • David Nichols

      Not as predictable as the ad hominem, name calling attacks of the Socialist/Communist Left…
      I have no need to berate you Keith, you belittle yourself well enough with your sophomoric commentary.

      • Ahhh, but you did just as I predicted. You non-beratement above is an attempt at cleverness, but actually contains insults. I appreciate it very much because by responding you embrace the label of being Trump’s Fascist ally.

        • David Nichols

          If that is what you gleaned from my response, reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit Keith…
          Sin enbargo, I’m happy to have helped prop up your ego…

      • GOPerson

        Do not feed trolls. They lost the election and they are still very angry. It does not help that Trump has done more for the American people in one week than did Barry did in eight years.

        • The problem with Hillary Clinton (as a candidate) and Barack Obama (as President) was that they were neoliberals who spoke well about protecting rights of minorities, but you’re right, did actual very little for the people. Neoliberalism has a good facade, but really serves the interests of the corporate 1%.

          By supporting Trump, you exchanged a do-nothing good for the people neoliberalism for a feel good (if you’re white and male) neo-fascism. His unfavorable numbers exceed his favorables very much reflected in how many more people showed up for the Women’s March than showed up for the Inaugural.

          You are right that I am angry too. I am angry that HRC cheated in the primaries and denied Sanders the nomination. I am angry that democracy appears to no longer be a possibility in the United States. This is not because who I voted for did not win, but because the system threw the worst possible choices from both major parties.

          • GOPerson

            Since the US is not a democracy but a constitutional republic, I do not understand your anger. A full fledged democracy is simply mob rule. And since you did not win the last election, you now wish to change the rules?

          • You are now displaying your ignorance of terminology. The words democracy and republic have become more or less interchangeable. Direct democracy is the “simply mob rule” to which you referred. Modern day democracies are constitutional representative democracies, thus the rule of law protects minorities from “mob rule.” A constitutional republic is a constitutional representative democracy, so please stop hiding behind rules.

            As to changing the rules 14 states ushered in voting restrictions just before the election. Trump won 11 of those 14. The purpose of voting restrictions is to limit who is allowed to vote. These rules have been shown to affect legal US citizens who are elderly, young, poor, and/or minority disproportionally. Thus free and fair elections did not happen … not in the primary on the Democratic side and not in those 14 states (at least) in the general election.

            So no, I’m not looking to change the rules so much as require that the Democratic Party honor the rules of the primary system and that those 14 states eliminate voter restrictions. The will of the people as expressed through the voting system in a representative democracy (constitutional republic) can only be valid if all of those who can legally vote are permitted to and encouraged to do so. Anything less is a facade of the will of the people.

  • Glen Olives

    I am somewhat skeptical that an hour long conversation saved the day. We’ve seen this before with Trump’s August Mexico visit: he talked nice, then held a rally and talked shit. The only thing predictable about Trump is that he is unpredictable, as people with mental illnesses tend to be.

  • Not really news, since everything here has been said before in multiple times, and unsourced. Sounds to me like bullshit. But even if it wasn’t, it isn’t really news.

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