The "freedom bus" in Mexico this week. The "freedom bus" arrived in Mexico this week.

Freedom bus to some, transphobic to others

Vehicle is part of campaign against sex education in schools and 'gender ideology'

A bright orange bus carrying a message of protest against sex education for students has arrived in Mexico as part of a campaign that stirred up a controversy in the United States and Spain in March.

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Described in Spain as the “transphobic bus,” the vehicle was banned in that country for its anti-transgender message.

One of the bus’s sponsors in Mexico, the Council for the Family, said in a statement that its “freedom bus” campaign is intended to stand up for the “fundamental right of parents to educate their children in accordance with their moral and religious convictions.”

The organization denounced what it called gender ideology and its imposition in Mexican schools.

“We refuse to let our children receive any kind of education that is not based on science and reason. Because of this, we reject gender ideology.”

Messages on the bus read, “Leave the children alone!” and “Don’t mess with my children.”

The Catholic Archdiocese of Xalapa, Veracruz, is among the organizations that brought the bus to Mexico, in an attempt to replicate the campaign launched in Spain and later in Colombia.

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The social communication office of the archdiocese said the vehicle would travel to Cancún for next week’s general assembly of the Organization of American States before touring the country.

Siobhan Guerrero McManus, a researcher at the National Autonomous University of Mexico and a transgender woman, said it was a serious matter that the bus should travel through Mexico because the constitution guarantees a secular and scientific education.

She labeled the criticism of sex education as reproachable because it was in the best interest of children to receive it, although its content is still limited. Topics such as sexual orientation and gender diversity are not even touched, she observed.

The executive director of the sexual diversity advocacy organization Letra S believes that the message on the side of the bus is “discriminatory and contrary to the rights of the minors it says it defends.”

Alejandro Brito Lemus accused the Catholic Church-related groups behind the bus of “lying shamelessly” about sex education in public schools with the purpose of ” . . . creating panic among parents.”

Source: El Universal (sp)

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  • WestCoastHwy

    for an institution that preys on children, the catholic church should be banned from getting anywhere near children. sexual preference and sexual identification are the basis to ones sexuality. there are necessary educational means to implement these studies on a maturity level bases. that means you don’t teach children to draw sexual organs in school as is taught in mexico at an early age unless you want sexual organs graffiti on the walls in your neighborhood. approaching such studies involves biology. sociology, psychology, and chemistry. religion and politics should not even be mentioned. i would suggest that puberty would be a starting point which means the males and females would need to be taught on a separate level of which birth control be the first lesson!

    • Garry Montgomery

      Fair points. And birth-control education is a must!

  • hypermach

    burn it

    • cooncats

      Typical violent leftist.

  • Ungoro Crater

    Yes im well aware i was born with a penis and i thank nature for wiring me up for girls, but what if i was born different??? wouldn´t it be shitty if i couldn´t live the way i wanted? This is more like “the Bus of Repression”.

    • cooncats

      No, you can be born anyway it happens. You don’t have the right to force your views on others via the schools.

      • gypsyken

        But religious beliefs may be forced on others?

        • Bonnie G

          No, you do not have to abide by the teaching of the Catholic Church, but neither should you force your belief system (the idea that gender is a social construct) on those who object. You should learn to tolerate those who hold different beliefs. Teach your own children your values, but leave the children of others alone.

        • Garry Montgomery

          Religion should be kept in the closet at home. Believe whatever you want but don’t force it on others.

          • Bonnie G

            Base on whose ideology? Stalin’s? Because that is the idea of the socialists, that religion has no place in society. Socialists are atheists who would deny Christians, and others, the right to practice their faith. Are you a socialist, in the tradition of Stalin?

          • Garry Montgomery

            Your own ideology or belief system. If its somebody else’s ideology it must have been inculcated into you (forced) and religion has no place in society as any thinking person discovers from observation.

          • Bonnie G

            This is not true in the USA, and not true in Mexico, where religious faith is tightly woven into the national identity. The Mexicans resisted the state’s ban on the church, so much so that they fought a civil war over it – the Cristeros War. Socialists want to restrict the freedom of people to believe and live according to their own conscience and will use violence and even terror to force compliance. The restriction of religion – as you describe – is a very dangerous concept.

          • Garry Montgomery

            I think you need some research. that was about property ownership more than “religion”.

          • Bonnie G

            Sorry, Garry, but you are wrong. Read up on the number of priests exiled and murdered. Visit some of the churches in Jalisco that commemorate their parish priests of this time period who were murdered by agents of the federal government. Don’t let hatred of religion blind you to the persecution of people of faith by a socialist government.

          • Garry Montgomery

            Ah, Bonnie, during your extensive education and excellent parental upbringing, did nobody ever mention that blatantly declaring someone “wrong” is not only offensive, it ruins any chance you have of winning a debate? As I said previously concerning your responses, “enough!” you know not of which you speak! Yet you go on and on . . .

      • Garry Montgomery

        Education is forced? Apart from Reading, Riting and Rithmetic there are other subjects young people need in order to develop into tolerant, civilized human beings. Most parents are incapable of teaching sex education and sexual tolerance. Most teachers raise other people’s kids.

        • cooncats

          Typical liberal. Government teachers know better than parents. BS

          • Garry Montgomery

            If the parents did their “job” there’d be no teenage pregnancy, children would have respect for others, there’d be no gangs, grafitti or crime. Teachers have more to offer than just Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. Teachers actually raise more children than parents do but teachers need the proper training so as to do the job the parents opt out of.

          • cooncats

            Same comment and add liberal arrogance.

          • Garry Montgomery

            such a biased, closed-mind stance on everything. You “sound” like a Democrat and just have to be right about everything.

          • Bonnie G

            It used to be a partnership between parents and teachers who held the same values. The teachers demanded a certain standard and parents upheld that at home. This no longer happens.

          • Bonnie G

            No system of education is fool-proof because people have free will. They cannot be programmed like robots. Besides, there are too many competing theories for the government to choose one to promote.

          • Garry Montgomery

            Correct. But the “basics” are universal and don’t need more than approval to institute. Reading and Writing are essential and so is Math. Basic manners and morals should be taught at home to fit in to the society in which we live, no? Basic sex education is simple and crucial e.g. this is a male and this is a female. The difference is the female can get pregnant if the male penetrates the female vagina with his penis, then a baby is born and somebody has to care for it and provide food, clothing, shelter and education. Are we on the same page so far? And then, unprotected sexual intercourse can lead to STD such as syphilis and AIDS.
            O.K., still? Any more than that should not be necessary. Where is the problem?

          • Garry Montgomery

            In most cases, yes.

          • Bonnie G

            No, in this case you are wrong. There are few teachers, today, who can teach the subject matter, much less have the ability to transmit values that benefit society. BTW, it wasn’t always this way. I had great public school teachers who were strict, morally excellent, well rounded and well educated people.

          • Garry Montgomery

            Then the licensing system for teacher is wrong. The need exists for children to be taught things they don’t always get at home and even if they do, then correct school education will simply reinforce the good home education, No?

  • Love it. There are only three genders. Male, female and deranged.

    • Garry Montgomery

      And that is where the problem lies. Poor education and bias.

  • Commander Barkfeather

    The first lesson taught in any educational setting, at the earliest convenience, regardless of age, geographic location, or local societal and religious tendencies, should be a universal toleration and respect for others, an appreciation for diversity, and above all, the importance of a single human being. Sadly, this is included in no curriculum I’ve ever seen. We all remember “Show And Tell,” but we are never taught to share our possessions with others. Thus, we grow up in a dichotomous world of “normal people” (us) and the “others” (them).

    • Bonnie G

      It is not the job of the schools – or the government – to train children in “diversity.” Parents sent their children to school to learn math, reading and writing. Moral values and beliefs are areas best left to parents.

      • Garry Montgomery

        Sadly the parents are deficient in those areas. Why are there so many unwed mothers? How can they teach their children something they were never taught?

        • Bonnie G

          Teachers are no better. And, what you will find is that no one cares as much as you do about your children. There are many things that I taught my children that I was not taught myself. It is possible.

          • Garry Montgomery

            Sure “some” parents care more but most don’t live up to their responsibilities in many areas of human development. Sex education is the #1 failing of parents. And many teachers are unqualified anyway, so we’re at a Mexican standoff! Who’s going to accept responsibility for teaching children not to rob, rape, paint graffiti, get pregnant, respect other people and the list goes on. Most parents are too busy making a living to even think about a moral education for their kids. Love for and responsibility for are two different things . . .

          • Bonnie G

            Okay. Perhaps you are correct in that parents fail in transmitting sex education, but who are you to say what will be taught to their children? What if they do not want their children exposed to the government’s ideas about sex and prefer this be taught by their pastor and to be based on Biblical concepts?

          • Garry Montgomery

            So, the pastor gets his jollies, the children become introverted and deviant. Based on Biblical concepts? C’mon! Every time a teenager gets pregnant she’ll blame it on the serpent or God and virgin conception.The church has no right to sex education. If it’s not done at home, where else can it be done but in the school by proficient teachers. After all it’s not a very complicated subject! So why is it ignored? For God’s sake . . .

          • Bonnie G

            I did not say the church has the right to sex education, but the parents do, and they should be able to choose how and who educates their children. It is the government who has no right to sex education. You obviously have no experience with Christians, so it is useless to debate someone who cannot understand religious concepts, but my point is that the education of children – in every subject, including sex education – belongs to the parents.

          • Garry Montgomery

            Wow! So now your methods have been revealed. You take giant leaps and land on false conclusions, e.g. “there are only two sexes”, and “You obviously have no experience with Christians”. You, Bonnie, are obviously a holier than thou “born again whacko” with fixed ideas, a closed mind and follow the Liberal movement to the end subjecting every non-believer to your heel! No more. I thought this debate was intelligent.

  • gypsyken

    The Catholic church rejects “education that is not based on science and reason.” What a joke! Religious belief defies both science and reason.

    • Garry Montgomery

      Exactly! And the priests who molest children are supported by the “scientific” Catholic church! The church knows firsthand that there are not just males and females, yet it contributes to the lust of its gay employees who are sexual predators.

  • If the Catholic Church wants to reduce the number of abortions, then they should encourage sex education. Empowered women get married later and have fewer babies and fewer abortions. Not educated young people does nothing to reduce the amount of premarital sex, but full information sex education reduces teen pregnancy and abortion. It also gives young people the language to expose their adult assailants. It helps women and children, so the church should be for it. Opposing sex education is the action of a misogynist.

    Catholics believe (and yes, I am Catholic) that God created life. Even the Pope recently acknowledged that God is not a magician, suggesting that God probably created life via evolution. But life as it was created “was good.” That means penises and vaginas are good. Sex is also good as it is. Male pleasure is necessary of course for procreation, but if God did not want sex to be wholly pleasurable, there would be no female orgasm, but there is, and it is good too. Therefore if we want to wholly acknowledge the creative wonder that is life, we will learn about it and experience it for the good that it is.

    The Church needs to stop pandering to patriarchy and look to the deeper message of Gospel liberation.

  • Garry Montgomery

    Regardless of any individual’s point of view, children should learn tolerance at an early age and be made aware that there are not just two sexes. Sexual orientation is genetic and tolerance of “the others” must be fostered and supported.

    • Bonnie G

      There are only two sexes. That is a scientific fact. The left needs to learn to be more tolerant of those with differing views.

      • Garry Montgomery

        Oh? Share the “science” porfis. If a person (alleged male or female) finds no attraction to the opposite sex then something is wired differently than “normal”. Which means, not considering deviance, there are at least 4 possibilities of sexual preference . . . male body wired female or female body wired male plus the two normally accepted sexes. It has to be accepted that other than a male who prefers contact with females and vice versa there are other possibilities and those differences must be respected and should not be discriminated against except in the case of “deviance”.

        • Bonnie G

          What bizzarro world do you inhabit? Look, buddy, you need to take up the Bible and start in Romans and see where that leads you. As for me, I think you are lost – by that I mean eternally lost…given up to a reprobate mind…but the decision is not mine to make.

  • Pogo

    I do not understand “transgender” at all. It has a bizarre and abhorrent appearance to me. It seems against common sense and even sanity. But I must emphasize it seems those ways to me right now. And that just makes me want to listen to them more so that I will understand. Even now, as I do not find meaning in it, I must advocate for them, and consider myself ignorant of something new to me (although not new to the world, as we’ve seen transgenders in history and more coming out now of course). I do not like classing a whole group of people as “bizarre, abhorrent,” etc. But that’s just being honest. I look forward to learning more about them so that those words slough off the same ways they did when I listened to and learned more about homosexuals and their struggles for equality and acceptance. Sorry if I’ve offended anybody.. just being honest. As far as sex education, there is too much evidence of it’s being beneficial in the long run in society for us to close our eyes to it and disallow our children to have modern, insightful, scientific data available at an early age, along with tolerance being taught right from the beginning.

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