The petition at change.org. The petition at change.org.

Petition calls for visas for US citizens

Requiring a visa seen as being fair as well as a revenue source

As Mexico prepares for the massive deportation of citizens who are undocumented migrants in the United States, some people’s thoughts have turned to the equitable treatment of people who cross the border — into Mexico.

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With that in mind, a petition was launched two weeks ago at change.com calling on the Mexican government to impose a visa requirement on U.S. visitors.

“It’s very important that international relations be bilateral and equitable with regard to rights and responsibilities,” reads the petition, which has garnered 29,000 supporters since it was launched two weeks ago.

“We must be fair; the visa for United States citizens in Mexico, in addition to being a source of income and diplomatic reciprocity should be a form of border control during times of violence and terrorism such as those in which we are currently living.”

The petition notes that Brazil, Bolivia, Paraguay, Cuba and China are other countries that already require U.S. visitors to have a visa.

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  • Eugene Nero

    I think you’re confused. We are already buying visas and have been for many years.

    • You are confused. It says US “visitors” (ie tourists). Americans don’t need a visa to visit Mexico.

      • Bodie Kellogg

        USA citizens are required to have a visa if they go further into mexico than a border state. It has been this way for years and years.

        • Commander Barkfeather

          I live in Ensenada. Been here for about six months. My wife and I have US passports and that’s it. I’m terribly afraid we are doing something wrong. I’d like to correct it and get the proper papers but everyone I’ve talked to seems to have a different answer (much like this forum). Additionally, the stickers on my Missouri plates have expired, as will my Missouri Drivers License in June. Please help. Will we be going to jail?

          • Bastion

            Yes – they are about to knock on your door now…

        • I stand corrected. But an arrival visa is clearly not the same as a visa you need to apply in advance, especially not like applying for a US visa.

          • Bodie Kellogg

            The document you receive when entering Mexico below the border states is a tourist visa, good for 180 days. The document you apply for at a Mexican embassy or consular agent, in your home country, is a temporary residency permit. The temp residency permit is then issued by the immigration office in the Mexican city you wish to reside in. In 4 years, if you follow through with the attendant paperwork, you can apply for permanent residency.

      • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

        Everyone that is from the American continent is an American.

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          while that is geographically true, legally it is a bit different. USA stands for United States of America. Thereore its citizens are Americans. The US Constitution, written in 1789, created the United States of America decades before there was a country called Mexico. The Mexican Constitution, the first one written in 1824, created Estados Unidos de Mexico. The United States of Mexico. Therefore its citizens are Mexicans.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            It’s the United States of America. As in the United States of the continent of America. Some one from the United States /United States of America is specifically a U.S. Citizen / U.S. American respectively.

            The legal term is U.S. Citizens. There is no legal argument or otherwise.

            As for Mexico, United Mexican States is its long form name. There is no of there. It named after the United region of Mexica .

            American is the generic term for someone from America, a continent, not a country. There is no country named America.

        • OK. Fine if you like it that way. But clearly I meant Americans who are citizens of the country United States of America, the country mostly geographically located north of the United Mexican States and the Commonweal realm of Canada.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            It’s not how I like, it’s a fact.

  • jaystone

    while its not an official “visa” i still pay for the FMM every time i go. so i think they are getting their money one way or another

  • Happygirl

    Canadians pay for a tourist card when entering Mexico…I am surprised that Americans don’t…tourist card or visa what is the difference? One thing for current temporary or permanent visa card holders is that you can request that the Airline not to charge you this fee as Mexico does not view you as a tourist…do this when booking and do it by phone NOT online as they will not and have no process to refund you the fee. Every time I get a representative that doesn’t know this and you will be on the phone for a while…You will have to email them a copy of your card but hey it saves us $50.00 ($25.00 each) each time and believe me it annoys them…” I’ve worked here five years and I have never ran into this before, I have to,check with my supervisor”. Oh well, they now charge for bags so I’ll do it each and every time.

    • WestCoastHwy

      Visas must be applied for and approved before entering and a permit can be administered immediately. It’s called a Tourist Permit. USA Citizens must have a Tourist Permit if staying in Mexico for an extended time. There are also 2 other types of Permissions for Extended stay also but I was only familiar with the FM3 which no longer is available.

      • Happygirl

        The two other visas are called Temporary and Permanent.

      • Not really, as a person who has done this let me explain. A US citizen can stay in Mexico fo 6 months, take a trip across the border to the US, Belize or Guatemala and stay a day or a few hours and cross the border again for another 6 months. No visa needed just your passport.

        But I assume you don’t travel

    • Denise Ackerly

      Americans pay for the FMM tourist card also when flying into Mexico. Some land border crossings don’t enforce it though. I will absolutely do what you suggest the next time I fly (have a permanent residency card). Thanks!!

      Remember folks, the FMM is not a visa in this sense of the word (even though we all call it a “visa”). A visa has to be applied for through a consulate. The FMM just registers you in their system and gets stamped at the border. No applying in advance necessary.

  • WestCoastHwy

    OK Then! Full ownership of any properties by USA Citizens in Mexico without a Fideicomisos for starters would be an equitable exchange.

    There are a lot of inequalities for USA Citizens in Mexico that Mexico Citizens enjoy in USA but Visas are required for Mexicans because of the approx. 12 Million unauthorized Mexicans living in the USA were as I would suspect, only 1% of USA Citizens out of that 12 Million have extended their stay beyond their Tourist Permit.

    In the USA, this would be considered retaliation and considered Illegal. The most significant problem for Mexico would be, who would pay for the administration of should an endeavor; imagine all the corruption?

    • W. Jones Jordan

      The Fideocomisos are required only along the frontier and the costs, not the interior. You can have one there, if you are (in my opinio) foolish enough to buy one.

  • WestCoastHwy

    I always like to inform people that we are not Americans, we are USA Citizens. Everyone that was born on this Continent are Americans; we just happen to not have a specific name like Canada or Mexico.

    • Chris P. Bacon

      “we are not Americans, we are USA Citizens” dumbest comment of the decade.

      • W. Jones Jordan

        The trick is that most English-speakers thing of North and South America as two continents, and English-speakers call those born the US “Americans” — and most Canadians are pround that they are NOT “Americans.”. Spanish-Speakers, on the other hand, consider ‘the Americas’ to be a single continent and everyone is an “americano”. Translations, as the Italians say,can betray.

        • Chris P. Bacon

          Of course, because only people and countries with inferiority complexes insist that Americans should not call themselves Americans, instead we are supposed to call ourselves invented names such as Estadounidense, or like the LeftCoastHwy lady said above, “USA Citizens.” Canadians and most of the world don’t have a inferiority complexes and envy, so they could care less that we call ourselves Americans. “American”has been the standard and accepted way the whole world has referred to citizens of the United States of America for over 200 years. America is also a standard, traditional, and accepted way to call our country for over 200 years. Only with the rise of leftist Latin American dictators and university professors (which influence American loonies) has it been an issue that we call ourselves American. God bless America! God bless Americans! God bless Mexico! God bless Mexicans!

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          the Mexicans here where i live in Mexico, including my wife, do not see it that way at all. The refer to Americans as Americanos and Canadians as Canadienses.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Most Mexican but not all are uneducated, ignorant, National Socialists under French Law!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            so now you insult Mexican too. You need to grow up.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Just the Facts, BABE! if your Mexican, take it anyway you want, but would not recommend the Stink Hole!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            I am male, BABE, and American. I am living in Mexico as a legal permanent resident. I have been here 13 years. I am married to a Mexican and have a Mexican family. I live in an ejido. I love this country just like i love the United States of America. Your calling it a stink hole just makes you look ridiculous.

      • daniel pugh

        The US hijacked the “American” designation centuries ago and it is still an irritant to those of us who live in the Americas but not in the USA. So no, it was not a dumb comment but heads up Chris, your “ugly American” is showing.

        • Chris P. Bacon

          see comment below Citizen of Canada.

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          The United States of America hijacked nothing. USA stands for United States of America. Thereore its citizens are Americans. The US Constitution, written in 1789, created the United States of America decades before there was a country called Mexico. The Mexican Constitution, the first one written in 1824, created Estados Unidos de Mexico. The United States of Mexico. Therefore its citizens are Mexicans.

          • Quite right, Dallas y Rocio.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Constitutional does not justify the Contempt and Arrogance “We the People” have to call ourselves the name of a Continent! We are the United States of a little part of America you Putz!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            Nothing gives you the right to call anyone names or be insulting. I live in Mexico. My Mexican neighbors call US Citizens Americanos, Canadians Canadienses, and Mexicans Mexicans. No arrogance involved. Grow up.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            You are so factually wrong. The term is mostly misused do to the popularized misrepresentation of the term by U.S. Americans. American is just someone form America, which is a continent not a country.

          • Crewlaw

            Oh christ, another one. People from Canada or Mexico don’t refer to themselves as an ‘American’, they call themselves the name of the country. People throughout the world refer to people from the U.S. as ‘Americans’ and it is not because the people of the U.S. forced them to. It’s just easier f.f.s.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            It’s because people from the U.S. misrepresent themselves as such. Everyone that is from the American continent is an American. This term includes more than just the U.S. Americans. Be honest with your self.

          • Vernon King

            This is as dumb as the visa discussion earlier. I live in Mexico. I am from the US. I am called an American in spanish here. Yes the trump mouth is right but USA folks here are called Americanos. Its not technically correct but its what we are called. Yes we are all Americans from the artic to the tip of south america. I try to be careful with the term American but the mexicans don’t give a shit. Now we should have the who is a Gringo discussion next 🙂

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            The proper and specific term however is U.S. American. The fact that some people in mexico repeat U.S. centrism is nonsense.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            thank you for some rationality.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            Of course they are Americans, they are from America. And they do identify by both their continent and nationality.

            The It’s only some Canadians hate being mistaken for U.S. Americans that are hostile to the generic term American due to the fact that U.S. Americans has misrepresented the generic term.

            Is it really that hard to specify that you are a U.S. American?

            This is the real and genuine America:
            https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3290.ar305500/

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            Mexicans and Canadians are Americanos for the same reason U.S. Americans are Americanos.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            Dude, i live in Mexico and have for 13 years.I am married to a Mexican and have a Mexican family. I can promise you that Mexicans call Mexicans Mexicanos, Americans Americanos and Canadians Canadienses. You keep believing whatever makes you happy. It doesnt hurt my feelings. have a nice evening.

          • WestCoastHwy

            But behind Your Back, it’s simple, “GRINGO” you Putz!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            Actually gringo is used to my face in an affectionate manner by some of my closest Mexcian friends as well as some of my family. If you really knew anything about Mexico you would know this. As to putz, name calling is the last resort of weak and uneducated people. Enjoy your bitterness, i am going to the beach.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Bitterness, I live on the Beach you PUTZ so don’t think about trespassing!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            I too live on the beach. In a Mexican ejido (you might need to goole that to understand what it is) just south of Mazatlan on the Pacific Coast of Sinaloa. It is called Isla de la Piedra. Please come down and visit. If you truly live on the beach then why are you so bitter?

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            name calling is sooooo awesome and shows what kind of person you truly are. Guess what? I live on a beach too. In Sinaloa, Mexico.

          • WestCoastHwy

            it’s the jew in me you GRINGO PUTZ, so get some culture.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            you seem to have a case of facebook false testicular enlargement. come on down to Sinaloa and see how tough you are. lol

          • WestCoastHwy

            i own 2 ranches in the sinaloa sierras and 1 in durango, not excluding beach properties. i usually don’t broadcast that because mexicans get very protective of their mexico and wouldn’t even bat an eye to kidnap a family member. so piss off you GRINGO PUTZ!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            sure you do. I am going to broadcast it for you so maybe some sicarios might try to make a buck. lol

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            done. you will now be famous on facebook. lol.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Sicario (2015) – IMDb quoting movies now……..PUTZ!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            I have never seen it, but thanks for the viewing suggestion. In my area, hitmen are known as sicarios. Its not a movie, its real life. You should know that with all your lavish property holdings in Sinaloa. You are just adding to your weak and uneducated credentials with your name calling and lack of understanding of Sinaloa terms. ha ha. Another day at the beach for me.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            thanks for the movie suggestion. i have not seen it. In the area i live in sicario is the real life term for hit man. more name calling just broadcasts your lack of intelligence and shows your underwhelmingness.

          • WestCoastHwy

            LMMFAO!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            gracias amigo. tenga buen dia.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            watched soldiers chasing drug dealers today. it was great, but not the movie version. they ran right by the pulmonia we were riding in. no shots fired today.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            you are full of feces, cabron.

          • WestCoastHwy

            excellent advise…….get an education and invest in your youth! and no matter what…….you’re a GRINGO to mexicans so get over it!

          • You’re sorta like a one trick pony huh?

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            Therefore citizens of the United States / United States of America are specifically U.S. Citizens /U. S. Americans respectively. American is what everyone of and from the continent of America is.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            it is Estados Unidos de Mexico. i live here and asked a Mexican what it says. They are called Estados Unidos de Mexico. United States of Mexico.

      • David Williams

        No, Chris…at best, that would have been the second dumbest comment of the decade.

        • WestCoastHwy

          Forrest Gump said?

    • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

      USA stands for United States of America. Thereore its citizens are Americans. The US Constitution, written in 1789, created the United States of America decades before there was a country called Mexico. The Mexican Constitution, the first one written in 1824, created Estados Unidos de Mexico. The United States of Mexico. Therefore its citizens are Mexicans.

      • Hailey Mannering

        Everyone from the North Pole to Tierra del Fuego is American, since America is the entire western hemisphere.

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          while that may be true in a geograhical sense, it is not true in a legal sense. Reread comment. Everything in it is factual. You may dislike it but it doesnt make it any less true.

      • WestCoastHwy

        All people born on the Continent of America are Americans; Mexicans, Canadian, Brazilians…etc. “United we stand”, is Old School so go buy some Legal Weed and See Reality!

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          geographically speaking yes. However the legal term for a citizen of the US is American and a citizen of Mexico is Mexican. Nationalism is big in Mexico. They call themselves Mexicans. I live in a 99% Mexican neighborhood called an ejido with a Mexican family. Grow up. Weed is not legal in Mexico yet, but it is decrimnalized.

          • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

            The legal term isn’t American, it is U.S. Citizen. Informally and incorrectly so, some people use the term American when referring to the people of the United States because that’s how U.S. Americans tend to misrepresent themselves as.

    • I detest ppl like you whilst traveling. We are called Americans for the same reason that citizens of Mexico are called Mexicans and citizens of Brazil are called Brazilians. It makes grammatical sense.

      • WestCoastHwy

        Mexican, Brazilians, and Canadians are all Americans. It’s very arrogant of us to call ourselves Americans and expect everyone else to be called something different! The Europeans are now called the European Union but are a Confederate of different Countries. I know for some of you don’t have the capacity to think beyond your National Eccentric Arrogance.

        • Cary Leslie

          Just a quick note… We who live in the North American continent are called North Americans. However it is appropriate for those who live in the United States of America to be call Americans. My Mexican collegues would not appreciate it if I called them Canadians or Americans as they are Mexicans. There is no arrogance here… When a Mexican arrives to Europe they are not asked if they are Americans…. period. By the way I have lived in many countries and do not fall into your assumption of National Eccentric Arrogance. By the way is that an official organization?

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          Our Constitution call us Americans . it has been the LEGAL term for cenutries just like Mexicans has been the legal term since 1824. People in the UK do not refer to themeselves as EU citizens, neither do French or Germans, etc. It is not arrogant to use the legal term delineated in the US Constitution. You are the arrogant one to think you can re write history. My Mexican family here in Mexico refers to US Citizens as Americanos and their countrymen as Mexicans and Canadiens as Canadienses. Do you live in Mexico with us?

          • WestCoastHwy

            US of a small part of America. You Trump Lover!

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            actually i wanted Jim Webb. He was the best qualified out of all the candidates. However, when he bailed after he realized the DNC had it rigged for Hillary i became an anyone but Hillary supporter.

        • Crewlaw

          Oh get off your ridiculous soapbox. Are you a college freshman? Travel throughout the world with a Brazilian a Mexican and a Canadian. Out of the four of you, only one will be referred to as an ‘American’, and it has nothing to do with national arrogance. It’s kind of clunky to say ‘United Statesian’, nothing more.
          “I always like to inform people…” Yeah, I’ve heard from plenty of you people who like to do that over the years, and you all sound equally silly.

          • WestCoastHwy

            The United State of a small part of America, you Putz

        • Cool Hand Luke

          And here folks is the thinking that is now tearing the USA apart.
          It says it all!

        • Dumb ass… you just used their country to identify them. Lol and no one in Germany says they’re European… they say German…. since the EU is not a new country but a number of countries in a political and economic trade agreement….

        • Nobody is debating that there is a continant that is the American continant. But absolutely no one in the world, except Australia, uses the name of their continant as an identifier… grow the fuck up and travel someplace other then Mexico and Costa Rica you imbecile

    • You speak silliness, amigo.

      • WestCoastHwy

        Think beyond your National Eccentric Arrogance Senor!

        • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

          why dont you quit insulting people. Do you live in Mexico?

          • WestCoastHwy

            “Putz”

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            Dang, that is the best come back ever. You give trolls a bad name. lol. enjoy your bitterness broski, i am heading to the beach.

          • WestCoastHwy

            Troll? you must live under a bridge, what a PUTZ

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            Dang. you are blowing me away with your original witty comments. Me thinks you putz the lotion on its skin.. lol. You might try leaving your moms basement and actually visiting our beautiful Mexico before you continue to make a fool of yourself.

  • Kangiska Garcia

    Someone is very confused. Americans already pay for a visa once they pass the 9 mile mark. Americans can hit border towns for free- such as Tijuana, but to go further people must have a visa and cars must have temporary permits.

    • W. Jones Jordan

      Believe me, a tourist card is not a visa. Nor are the work permits FM-2 AND FM-3. You need a visa to visit Cuba, not México. I’ve held all of them at one time or another.

      • Kangiska Garcia

        They haven’t used FM2 and threes in years. There are new visas for work but that is besides the point. The article is talking about charging for visas as if Mexico never has, which isn’t true.

        • Esma

          I am in the process of renewing my FM3 right now, so yes, they are still being used

          • pedrochapala

            no there is no fm3 anymore. it has been replaced by what is called a temporal ya dummy.

          • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

            my FM2 was converted to a residente permanente visa in early 2013. At the same time FM3s were converted to residented temporal.

      • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

        the Mexican government calls it a tourist visas. FMT, now FMM. it is good for 6 months.

    • Joanne Bee

      I entered Mexico 3 times in the last year, via the airport in Mexico City, and have not paid for a visa or visitor card or any such thing.

      • pedrochapala

        you paid it through your airline stupid

        • Joanne Bee

          I’ve traveled in over 40 countries and have live in 9, including Mexico. I know what a visa is and I haven’t had one for Mexico, except for a residency visa. It is not required. Full stop. And calling people you don’t know stupid is not very bright. “Nationals of the following 65 countries and jurisdictions holding normal
          passports do not require a visa to enter Mexico as tourists, visitors
          in transit or business visitors. Tourists and business visitors can stay
          in Mexico for up to 180 days. Visitors in transit can stay for up to 30
          days.” Those countries include the United States. I would suggest doing some research before calling names and stating alternative facts.

          • Kangiska Garcia

            Once you pass the 9 mile border, you need a visa. It’s good for 180 days.FM3 and FM2’S were replaced in 2012 with temporals.
            I’ve been coming to Mexico for 20 years, and I now live here full time. Visas are mandatory, always have been.

        • kallen

          Name calling isn’t necessary is it?

      • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

        it is included in the airfare. a 6 month tourist visa called an FMM is required. It runs around $26 dollars.

      • Sheila Hughes

        You paid for that Visa in the price of you ticket. I assure you of that. It is called an FMM and it is the paperwork you fill out while on the airplane in order to get into Mexico.

    • Eugene Nero

      I think you’re confused. NOW at the border, the walk-in line bifurcates: one for Mexican citizens and one for other. Now we have to obtain the tourist card and hand over the cash. We have been buying fmts, fm2s & fm3s for years. We simply show our passports, fill out the application and pay the 22 dollars, although the last time I came through, the man wanted a tip and asked me for 30 dollars.

      Yes, Brazil requires a 100 dollar visa because the US requires a 100 dollar visa application. Cuba requires a visa because the commies need the cash! Go figure. And on and on and on. It’s all for the money, in case you didn’t know. So call it a visa or call it an forma migratoria, it’s still the same money. Now Mexicans entering the
      States illegally don’t show their passport, fill out the application or hand over the cash, do they? Muchisimas gracias, Compadre, y hasta la proxima, Baby!

  • Phyllis .Launius

    Tourists pay less than $25 USD to visit Mexico up to 180 days. A Mexican pays a minimum of $160 USD for visa to enter the USA.

    • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

      that $160 dollars gets a Mexican a 10 year tourist visa cardto the USA. I know because my wife (Mexican) and her children (also Mexican) have them and i paid for them. so which is cheaper?

  • Garyt924

    I live here too. Without a visa.

    • Dan Tucker

      You are an illegal! OMG! I have been living here for 9 years and visited regularly (2 or 3 times yearly) 15 years before moving here permanently. I always paid for what I thought was a visa at the border. I paid rather handsomely for a temporary resident card (each year) before getting my permanent resident card (it´s even GREEN). What a hoot! I interpreted the point of the article to be that Mexico needs to charge US citizens who visit here. They are already doing that, so it´s a stupid petition and mute point in my opinion. But, I do turn 60 next month, so maybe I´m confused. BUT, at 60 I will get a DIF card that gets me 50% discount on bus tickets. What a country! I love it here!

    • Donald Godier

      Are you a resident?

  • golfwar

    Do whatever you want. We simply won’t come there (with our cash) anymore. Mexico is a total sh*thole anyway.

    • David Williams

      All of Mexico thanks you.

      • golfwar

        We’ll see when they can’t afford to feed their families. Oh wait, they already can’t afford to do that. Please recall the 12 million leeches you have in the US as well.

    • pedrochapala

      we don’t need shitstains like you here thanks.

      • golfwar

        Sure dude. Take all your 12 million scabs back and then you can say that.

        • gaymex1

          You need to seek therapy…so much racist hostility.

          • golfwar

            Na, just really tired of the BS. Make something out of your own country and if you can’t, stop having children. Losers.

          • gaymex1

            We’re all tired of the BS, but we’re never going to solve problems unless we somehow can work together. I’m as guilty as the next person of getting fired up instead of looking for what we all have in common. People who have little in the way of money don’t have much control over their own lives let alone the direction of their country, whether it’s the U.S. or Mexico. We need to see each other as individuals and not as groups. One person at a time.

          • golfwar

            That’s a great story to pitch from the viewpoint of the ones looking for all the handouts. I’m a high-earner/tax payer here. I’m one of the ones who has to go to work every day to foot the bill for the leeches in terms of the free handouts our liberal are trying to give them. I see the liberals looking the other way on illegal immigration, thus setting these poor folks up for exploitation and a lifetime of living in fear. That ain’t right. The border needs to be closed completely, and then things can be worked out. Ideally, Mexico can start looking after its own citizens instead of exporting its problems to other countries. I’ve lived in CA for going on 20 yrs now and all I see are things getting worse. More crime, more gangs, A LOT more graffiti on the highways, etc. We’re not going to be “shamed” into working for you people. Freaking stop the BS and figure it out for yourselves and be grateful for the help you get from the USA, don’t just expect it or try to leech off of us. Like I said, if you can’t afford your children, if you can’t plan for your society’s prosperity/well-being, then stop having kids. But whatever you do, stop making it someone else’s problem! You want to be treated with dignity, then start acting like it.

          • gaymex1

            I make no bones about being socially liberal, but it might surprise you to know that I do agree with some of what you said. We just have to all get rid of the anger so we can deal with the issues in a way that recognizes the problems and then deals with them equitably. I definitely agree with the need for fewer babies–all the way around–whether people can afford to raise them or not. The planet can only support a finite population of humans. I agree that we should all stop the BS, but first we have to identify it and I’m sure there’s enough to go around–on all sides.
            I don’t think I could ever look at any child anywhere as a leech and I would be surprised if you did. Kids aren’t responsible for where they were born. If they’re here, they need to be assimilated and looked after so the problem can be self-correcting in time. It won’t be easy for any of us. I will say that I live in a small town in the Yucatan and I don’t know any people that I would call leeches–in fact, just the oposite. Hard working, honest, kind people. I think that all of us do the best we can given whatever our circumstances are. Life is short and we only get one go at it. It’s a big deal if you can change the course of just one life.

          • golfwar

            See, let me educate you on the problem with most Liberals. You’re all so cynical.
            Go to the mirror and look at yourself and say aloud ” I am very judgmental of others. Without truly knowing how they feel, I will just assume the worst and will consequently label them as such”.

            I don’t think you know much about US citizens. We are probably the most generous people in the world, or close to it. But we can’t have it forced on us. I and many/most folks who voted Republican this time want real solutions but somebody’s gotta take the first step. Mexico won’t. The Democrats won’t. No other president/party in recent history has. Trump is not the perfect guy for the job, but he was the only choice.

            You assume how I feel about kids. Not true.
            You assume I think the Mexican people have no dignity. Not true.

            My plan would be:
            1. Stop the current flow of illegal immigrants so we can get a handle on the problem and start making progress. Trump is trying to do that. Even if it takes beefed up border security (a.k.a A Wall). Nobody really believes we need the entire freaking wall, but we need more than we have now.
            2. The USA has been complicit in allowing illegals to come in and stay. We should shoulder some responsibility for that. No one gets free citizenship or even a path, but they do get treated humanely. Families stay, but get sent to the back of the line, pay some sort of fine, but no citizenship until all the others currently in line get through. If a path to going back home to a fruitful job/situation can be achieved, then of course they can just go home.
            3. The children: It is not their fault. They get citizenship or a path after they graduate high school and are not juvenile criminals.
            4. The jobs no one wants to do: Work programs. Foreign workers come, make money, pay taxes, go home and retire rich (enough) and happy.
            5. Illegal criminals – gone immediately. And yes, the police do get to ask about citizenship when someone is stopped or involved in a crime.
            6. Do everything in our power to work with the Mexican gov’t to get them on a path to providing for their people, or at least advertise loud and clear why we can’t help – i.e corruption.

            I know Mexican people are hard working, honorable. Take pride in your country and keep your people there and work hard to make something of the place. Tackle the drug cartels and get rid of the crime/corruption. Ask for help from the American people. Run an ad that begs Americans not to buy drugs. No demand, no supply.

            Lots of us feel this way. We want action. We want fair/humane/equitable solutions for all. But anything you try to do gets met by the Left with protests and shaming, name calling, etc, assumptions, judging.

          • gaymex1

            LOL. For someone who accuses others of making assumptions, you sort of take the cake. I wish you as much happiness as you can find in your lifetime.

          • golfwar

            No assumptions here. Don’t have to look any further than the facts to see the truth. I truly wish you and your people find your footing, your dignity/pride, and for God’s sake, tell your buddies to keep their dicks in their pants or at least use birth control (that other people don’t have to pay for). Couldn’t believe it when I heard how much American taxpayer money goes to Mexico City for abortions/family planning. I’m about to go to work now: That means that some part of my earnings today gets handed over to you idiots for free. Cause you’re irresponsible.

          • gaymex1

            “No assumptions here.” ROFLMAO.
            I am a U.S. citizens.
            Haven’t lived there in years, but still pay federal taxes.
            Try to conjure up a little empathy for humanity.

          • golfwar

            God helps those who help themselves. It’s called “tough love”. Give a man a fish and he feeds his family for a day. Teach him to fish and he feeds them for life. Enough with the f’king handout mentality already.

            Yeah, I suspected you to be a liar about living there. Illustrates your character.

          • gaymex1

            WTF are you talking about? Liar about what?
            You are one seriously deranged dude.

          • golfwar

            Suckitfag

          • gaymex1

            LOL

  • Dbearas

    Mexico already requires a visa for tourists you morons. Do some research before you write a stupid story.

  • Dbearas

    One other thing. who needs mexico anyway. A narco state where you are likely to be killed or kidnapped. Go to Costa Rica its clean peaceful and safe.

    • Dan Tucker

      Mexico will be a better place without people who think as you. . . . Please continue to enjoy Costa Rica. Cheers!

      • gaymex1

        Thank you.

    • Hailey Mannering

      I was involved with Cost Rica for about 20 years. It was so dysfunctional that I settled in Mexico. Costa Rica lacks one decent city. The centre of the capital is dangerous after dark. Merida, Yucatan in contrast is thriving until late every night.

    • pedrochapala

      scumbag.

  • Michael C

    Amen to the cost difference! I will submit my documents to Migracion next week, and the price for ONE year will be 3,700 pesos……..substantially more than a 6 month tourist card! But…..happy to be here!

    • pedrochapala

      really for one year? who issued it to you- p.t. barnum?-SNORK!

      • Joanne Bee

        Trolling much? I’m sure you have the time, as you clearly aren’t traveling.

    • Bastion

      No, you can’t compare the FMM to your resident visa cost. There is actually also a true visitor visa, that requires application and documentation unlike the FMM, and it costs like $10 more than the FMM. It’s just that most people don’t bother with it, because, why would you? Well, people from other countries, would, of course, who can’t get an FMM card.

  • David Williams

    Ah, facts. You gotta love ’em.

  • Cindy Mooney

    Mexico already requires a visa for US citizens to enter. What makes this different?

  • Joanne Bee

    People not well traveled get confused about the terms.

  • Joanne Bee

    I have traveled in and out of Mexico, through the airport in DF, three times in the last year and have not needed a visa. It would make sense for that to change given the aggression from gringolandia.

    • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

      it is included in the airfare. $26 gets you a 6 month tourist visa. it used to be called an FMT and now it is an FMM.

      • Bastion

        It’s a tourist “card”; only available to visitors from some countries (e.g. USA). There is also an actual visitor visa that costs about $10 more, but you have to apply and offer documentation, unlike the FMM.

  • Hailey Mannering

    Visas for US citizens entering Mexico would cost Mexico more revenue than it would gain. Yes, it would be equal, but it would reduce the number of US citizens entering Mexico. If equality is the goal, then something should change regarding Mexicans in US being allowed to take part in political activities there, but not vice versa.

    • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

      a tourist pays $26 US for a FMM that used to be called FMT. Mexican immigration refers to this as a 6 month tourist visa.

  • Ardbeg

    Dear Mexico,

    Retarded ideas like this are why you’re poor.

  • Mexico already requires a visa to visit and has been doing so for ages. It’s the tourist visa. What they are talking about really is charging for it. Now it’s free. Charging for it would be a good example of cutting off your own nose to spite, well, whatever. Fewer Gringos would visit. They bring cash down, you know.

    The reason it’s free is precisely to encourage tourism. The nincompoopery exhibited in this matter is amazing.

  • Fester N Boyle

    ‘m for declaring Mexico’s northern states a buffer zone and building the
    wall at their southern border. We’re hosting enough of Mexico’s
    citizens to demand a fair compensation. The Mexicans can continue to
    govern the territory south of the wall, and we can resettle the illegals
    in the buffer zone and have them fix the culture.

  • Fester N Boyle

    We merely need to treat the crimmigrants in the US the same way Mexico treats theirs.

    Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

    Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

    Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

    Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do notbehave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

    Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

    Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

    Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

    Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

    Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

    Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

    A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

    Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

    etc.

    • gaymex1

      If you research the topic, you will find that the U.S. has similar laws applicable to immigrants. Punishment can be severe. Whether either country enforces the laws is another matter.

  • bc3b

    I have no problem with this. It’s Mexico’s tourist business that will suffer. For the past few decades the US has become the dumping ground for Mexico’s undesirables (uneducated, unskilled, non-productive peasants). And, Mexico benefits from about $25 billion in remittances (much of which is funded by US taxpayers). There’s a new sheriff in town. You’re no longer dealing with Barack Obama or Gringo Jorge Bush. Learn to live with it.

    • gaymex1

      Such unnecessary hostility. Do you have any solutions other than “new sheriff”?

    • collegeboy2007

      …funded by US taxpayer? are you stupid? fucking scumbag.

  • John Thomason

    That’s their right to do. Go for it. I don’t think they know what they’re asking for, but they can take the tourism hit if they want.

  • j_b_spence

    OMG, Mexico has done some stupid things in the past but creating extra costs or restrictions for EEUU visitors would be madness. Tourism is one of the three legs on the Mexico economy.

  • ThriveLiving

    Not a very well thought out plan. If Mexico makes it difficult for Americans, all it will do is harm the tourist industry and create more expense for processing visas. I can’t imagine it would be a big money maker, like this petition is portraying — if anything, just the opposite. I hope people come to their senses and this whole idea falls flat.

  • gypsyken

    An excellent idea, long overdue. Mexico charges U.S. citizens only about $20 for a tourist visa when he or she enters the country, while a Mexican citizen who applies for a visa to enter the U.S. must pay an application fee of $160–with no guarantee that the visa will be issued! There should be reciprocity between countries in visa fees. Some South American countries have established reciprocity as a principle, charging U.S. citizens entering them what the U.S. charges citizens of their countries to enter it. I never complained about paying such fees, because fair is fair.

  • Henry Wilson

    The third largest source of foreign earned income and Mexicans want to kill that fat golden goose. Sounds typical.

  • gypsyken

    Having now read through all the comments posted as of this time, a painful process, I must say that although, as a psychologist (long retired), I do not have high expectations regarding demonstrations of intelligence–half of the population, after all, being below average in that respect–the lack of knowledge and level of intelligence that the comments reveal astonishes me. They clearly are weighted in the bottom half of the distribution of intelligence.

    • Henry Wilson

      And thank you for confirming the reputation of your profession for being obnoxious, supercilious, and worst of all, intellectually dishonest. When asked his opinion of your profession, the famed american trial lawyer f.lee.bailey laughed and snorted, “nothing but overpaid whores in cheap suits.” Indeed.

      • gypsyken

        Thank you, Mr. Wilson, for providing a fine example of what I was referring to.

        • Henry Wilson

          Lol! That the best ya got? But of course it is, for after all you are a member of the only profession in the world whose members are crazier than their customers.

          • gypsyken

            We do learn that some people are beyond help. Hillary Clinton’s biggest mistake was saying that only half of Il Duce Trump’s supporters were deplorables.

          • Henry Wilson

            i’ve read better comebacks from the mouths of the brain dead celebs in hollywood. if that’s the best a supposedly educated guy like you can come back with, you had best remain in mexico. in the states, we will eat you up, spit you out, burp, and ask what’s for dessert.

          • gypsyken

            I was living in Mexico, but I’m now in the U.S. and doing, with others, whatever I can do to get rid of Il Duce Trump. There are some hopeful signs, like the thousands who participated in demonstrations against Il Duce across Mexico yesterday, and the thousands who will be participating in similar demonstrations in the U.S.

          • Henry Wilson

            you’re a fool.

          • gypsyken

            The ultimate response from an intellectually limited person who is incapable of rational thinking.

          • Henry Wilson

            arrogance, condescension and superciliousness are the hallmarks of a man who has read the encyclopedia britannica but never understood a word of it. you are not just a fool, but a pathetic fool. get lost.

          • gypsyken

            Careful. You may be decompensating.

  • Cary Leslie

    I do agree (as a Permanent Resident in Mexico) that the visas tourists get while coming to Mexico are not as expensive as a visa to come to the U.S. But lets not get lost in the discussion here. Mexicans deported from the U.S. are not on holiday in the U.S. They are working here, going to school, etc etc. I am not sure how they do it… but here in Mexico I am unable to get a bank account without my residence card, I cannot work in Mexico without my residence status (by the way I pay Mexican income tax) So Mexico is not reciprocating but should they? I would have to ask the Mexican people (the same ones boycotting U.S. businesses in Mexico) who are you really hurting through boycotts and visas….the Mexican people… for those boycotting U.S. businesses in Mexico…. are not those employees Mexican? For those hotels, airlines as such that live day to day on tourism….are not those Mexicans…. I hope calmer minds review policies like these that in reality hurt the people that they are supposedly trying to help.

  • Sketti

    1. We are going to build a wall, which will have NO impact on Mexicans visiting our country legally.
    2. We are going to deport ANYONE (Africans, South Americans, Russians, Europeans, Asians, etc) who is in our country illegally. This will NOT impact Mexicans who visit our country legally.
    3. Contrary to all the BS the media and leftist are spewing, Americans do NOT hate Mexicans. Part of my family are Mexican and I love them very much.
    4. The Mexican government can throw temp tantrums all they want but the only people that will be hurt by this is the Mexican people.
    5. The Mexican government better start building a lot more prisons because we will be returning a lot of bad people with the millions of people we return to Mexico.

  • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

    while geograhically your are correct, as per the Constitutions of the two coutnries, Americans are Americans and Mexicans are Mexicans. Those are legal terms.

    • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

      LOL this has nothing do with the constitutions. You are making this up. You are a U.S. Citizen, and as far a American goes, you are specifically a U.S. American. Common sense.

  • Dallas Autery Y Rocio Heredia

    the legal terms as per the Consitutions of both countries are Americans and Mexicans. Mexicans call Americans, Americanos.

    • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

      LOL The U.S. Constitution has no mention of such terms. The term American refer generically to the peoples of the continent of America. U.S. Americans are a subset of Americans.

      The legal term for someone from the United States is U.S. Citizen.

      Stop bullshitting yourself.

    • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

      American is the english word for Americano, we are all Americans. The fact that some people use the word incorrectly is neither here nor there.

      As it irrelevant as it is if it did, the United States constitution does not lay mention to the term American.

      feel free to read it your self.

      You are trying to rationalize entitling your self an identity which is appropriately that of everyone of and from the continent of America.

  • Eugene Nero

    I think you’re confused. NOW at the border, Americans walking in will find that the line bifurcates: one for Mexican citizens and one for others. Now we have to obtain the tourist card and hand over the cash. We have been buying fmts, fm2s & fm3s for years. We simply show our passports, fill out the application and pay the 22 dollars, although the last time I came through, the man wanted a tip and asked me for 30 dollars.

    Yes, Brazil requires a 100 dollar visa because the US requires a 100 dollar visa application. Cuba requires a visa because the commies need the cash! Go figure. And on and on and on. It’s all for the money, in case you didn’t know. So call it a visa or call it an forma migratoria or call it papel higienico, it’s still the same thing–money. Now Mexicans entering the States illegally don’t show their passport, fill out the application or hand over the cash, do they?

    Muchisimas gracias, Compadre, y hasta la proxima, Baby!

    • ?heℝacist?ninhibited?ooℙ

      Everyone of and from the American continent is an American. So you might want to be specific when referring to your self and use the appropriate term U.S. American.

  • Jack Windham

    i pay $45 for my visa every 6months before getting resident status started

  • Mike Hadinger

    This news writer is extremely confused. Every U.S. citizen has to have a visa beyond the 30 km mark of every highway. Even those who shop across the border have to pay. It took us seventeen years and thousands of dollars to obtain an permanent visa….

  • I stand corrected. But an arrival visa is clearly not the same as a visa you need to apply in advance, especially not like applying for a US visa.

    But by the way, the fact that you live in Mexico doesn’t mean you know. If you live in a foreign country, you will need a visa; but if you are only visiting, it’s always going to be different.

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