Crime scene in Ixtapa yesterday. Crime scene in Ixtapa yesterday.

Gunmen shoot and kill US citizen in Ixtapa

The 50-year-old man was reportedly being chased by his attackers in hotel zone

A man identified as a United States citizen was shot and killed early yesterday morning in the beach resort city of Ixtapa, Guerrero.

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A spokesman for the security agency Guerrero Coordination Group said Bradley Douglas, 50, was attacked by gunmen in the city’s hotel zone.

Witnesses told local media that the victim was being chased by his attackers when he was shot by a nine-millimeter gun at about 4:00am. However, local police didn’t receive a report of the incident until 8:00am, after Douglas’ body had lain in a parking lot for four hours.

The victim is believed to have been from California, but authorities were unable to say if he was a tourist.

The Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo area has seen an increase in violence due to disputes between rival criminal organizations. Sate security officials say there have been 112 homicides presumably related to organized crime so far this year in the municipality of Zihuatanejo.

Source: El Sur (sp)

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  • michael grosser

    Moral of the story, maybe 4 am is not a good time to out on the street.

    • Phillip Trimbath

      Bigger moral, Mexico is rapidly regressing to a banana republic

      • michael grosser

        Sir, that is an insult to banana republics everywhere. Yes I totally agree with you. However as for as this news item upon which I have commented upon: my money is on the fact that this dead person was out partying, drinking, doping and chasing hookers. I could be wrong and he may well have been on his way to get an early jump on morning mass. Nevertheless 4 am is a good time to get in trouble even if he was delivering newspapers.
        Gud to hear from you Man. What a shame that Mexico has gone to shit and only getting worse. I hope to escape soon. After 15 yrs and tons of accumulated crap and not knowing where to go (no no no not back to US!)Any suggestions Phil ? Best to you in the year ahead.

        • Early jump on morning mass. You’re a funny fellow. Well, if you really want to move somewhere else — I sure don’t — consider Chile.

          • Ge0ffrey

            I love Mexico. I’m staying, too.

          • michael grosser

            I used to love Mexico, but the thrill is gone. Where is it that things are so great? I’m missing sumptin (not unusual for me) Seriously I gotta get out
            Baja and this stinking desert…Where do you recommend?

          • Ge0ffrey

            Start traveling. Investigate some of the colonial mountain cities like Zacatecas, Tequila, Tlaquepaque, Morelia, Guanajuato, Queretaro, Oaxaca, etc.. Go east and check out Xalapa and Campeche. It’s very green there. There’s a lot of diversity in this country. Regionally people are different, food is different, climate is different. I haven’t been to Baja but people say it’s the most expensive region in Mexico. Enroll in a good Spanish language school somewhere, take private lessons four or five hours a day, and dedicate yourself to improving your skills. Do you have any Mexican friends or do you just hang with expats?

          • michael grosser

            Zero expat contact since my Bud died…I speak really crappy spanish but it is what I communicate with on a daily basis..I get by (partly on pity I guess) my hearing is shot which make it harder to learn. The areas you mentioned I have looked into and really want to check out. All the advise I get warns me not to get out on the hyway. I have pretty much pig headedly ignored advise my whole life but I just thunk maybe it was time to listen to people for a change since I am out of my environment
            and easy pickings. Between the blockades and the banditos, I worry.
            I don’t so much mind getting killed but I have a real fear of being taken hostage. I would make a lousy hostage. No one exist to pay for me and if they did they would pay the guys to keep me jajajja. Would you feel OK about packing up and heading down road? I was going to be traveling with my Novia (Mexicana) and her safety was a major concern because of the terrible thing that could happen. Now it looks like I will traveling alone. I have the package Mex Car, Mex plates, Mex insur, Mex DL
            Just gotta screw up my courage I guess. Mil gracias para tu ayudar!
            Any additional feedback/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
            Best to you and many great years ahead

          • Ge0ffrey

            I haven’t driven in Mexico so my advice would be limited. By all accounts, stay on the main autopistas and drive during the day. Unless you are buying or selling drugs, there is slim chance you’re going to be a victim, according to statistics.

          • michael grosser

            Thanks, no you haven’t driven in Mexico. Yes your advice is limited. Nevertheless your opinion is greatly appreciated.

          • michael grosser

            Thanks Felipe, I have been studying Chile too, are you being sacastic
            or do you seriously recommend it. I just want to escape all this senseless violence and I hate to see how all the pinche gringos are buying the future out from under the Mexican citizens. The future is so bleak . I want to live somewhere away from the dispare. Living in Mexico is like watching a starving mangy dog staked out in sun with no water. Where is the hope? No future for the poor people. Too sad.
            Oh well, Feliz Ano Nuevo (pray that I am just stupid and totally wrong)

          • Why in the world do you think I’m being sarcastic? I am not. Chile has been Latin America’s success story for years now. However, of late, their political situation seems to be getting a little dicey. I do not recall the details of why I think that. You’d have to check.

            But for me, I like Mexico. It’s a land of opportunity. More so every year. Yep.

          • Ge0ffrey

            And they just elected a conservative: i.e., economic stability.

          • michael grosser

            Thank you Felipe, I just wasn’t sure…I get so much BS from people.(it’s like they say , “oh yeah if you don’t like Mexico you should move to Watts, etc” )Please do not think I was being rude. Have you lived in Chile? It’s a big long long country. Alot of desert to the north,
            I thought of heading toward the vineyard area because generally that means a good climate. Just wish it wasn’t so far (and expensive) to visit. What got me here was it was easy to visit i.e. drive to. Not so with Chile or even other posiblilities (CR, Ecuador, Panama,
            Belize, Nica) God, I just wish I had your optimism toward Mexico. May I ask what part you live in? Where you would recommend? Baja has really got me down…I have been here too long I guess..way too hot in summer and no trees no clean rivers/lakes etc. and the element of being robbed/killed/or worse kidnapped is ever present should I travel on the highways on the mainland. I have been beaten and robbed in Mulege and robbed in my sleep in Nayarit and all the news and my friends (Mexicans) advise me against traveling on the roads. If I spend all my money looking for places with airline tickets I won’t have the $ to move.I do have a modest pension to live on once I get to where ever it is I am going…
            just wish I knew where the hell that wuz. Well Sir, I will not bother you further with my life story/mid life crisis. I only wish I had your bright outlook regarding Mexico…I just see it spiralling downward. I pray that I am wrong…hardd to argue with record setting murder statistics (though I am not big on statistics) All the best to you Felipe y Feliz Ano Nuevo!!

          • I did not think you were being rude. No worry. And I imagine most of Mexico is far safer than Watts. No, I’ve never lived in Chile. I’ve lived in Mexico 18 years. Were I starting from scratch, however, I would give serious consideration to Chile. But I really like living in Mexico and, as you mentioned, Chile is a long way off. I would not even consider living in Costa Rica, Ecuador, Panama, and surely not Belize or Nicaragua.

            I live in Pátzcuaro, Michoacán. We have too many Gringos here already, so if you want to head in this direction — and that would not be a bad idea — go to the nearby state capital of Morelia. It’s great. I’m assuming you’re in northern Baja. Yuck. That area gets worse every year. Anywhere near the border is dicey. Anywhere near a coast has awful weather. As for murder statistics, most murders, not all, are connected to the narcos. If all those bad things have happened to you, I recommend you get thyself to a better area of Mexico. You sound like a bad-luck magnet.

            Probably the most tranquil area of Mexico is Yucatan. May 2018 treat you better.

          • michael grosser

            Actually La Paz Baja Sur. No I really cudn’t stand anything near N border. Jajajja”bad luck magnet” have you been reading my mail.(or my mind) I’m trying to get de magnetized. Thanks for your feedback. You are very kind. Best to you and yours in the year(s) ahead.

          • La Paz, eh? Yes, problems have been on the upswing there, alas. Here’s some unsolicited advice that will probably sound strange. Don’t try and make friends with Mexicans. Socializing with Gringos is a better idea or even keeping to yourself. Why? Middle-class, educated Mexicans normally will have little interest in socializing with a Gringo pensioner. Lower-class Mexicans, however, will be very, very friendly, but they are seeing you as an easy mark most of the time. I suspect your hanging out with “poor” Mexicans may have resulted in much of your troubles.

          • michael grosser

            Thanks for advise (and yes it is solicited..I need all the help I can get)
            I see no zero cero gringos on a daily basis. My beef is that so many are down here try to make a killing on real estate or tourism etc. They are much more heavily capitalized and starve out the locals that are trying to start business on a shoestring. The last thing they want is for the Mexicans to have opportunity and no longer work for the starvation wages
            that they are building their little empires around. Mexicans yes…pinche Gringos NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(oh BTW it is their country have you ever noticed?

          • Leave Baja, come inland, find better Gringos (not real estate people), avoid poor Mexican “friends.” In a nutshell.

          • michael grosser

            Felipe you are very kind and I appreciate your feedback very much. What you suggest is just what I have had in mind for a long time.
            However my Mexican girl and local mexican friends have all told me
            OMG it’s too dangerous! Don’t go out on the HWY’s! I planned to travel with my girl and I was very afraid of putting her in danger (as the Capt. I am responsible for the crew/passengers). I always take the worse case scenerio. To think of my poor girl being violated and me having put her there was more of a burden than I could bear.
            GOOD NEWS (?) we have broken up and I am once again single
            so that doesn’t effect me so much. Nevertheless, I am a jerk who watches and reads the news which exploits bad things. (which of course happens everywhere).
            I have always been a road warrior but that was in the states. I have always ignored peoples warnings as well. I guess I am getting a little nervous in my old age because #1 CRANK….It makes people not
            human #2 Gangs it makes youngsters do really really stupid shit.
            #3 Gangsters on crank. Throw logic and common sense out the window. But hey, you only Die Once..I would prefer not to be tortured and murdered sensely. But, thats just me I have to work through it.jajajajaj
            Now that I am approaching (?) geezerhood I thought for a change
            maybe I should take peoples advise for a change. You can only play with the houses money for so long…..blah blah blah
            OK. I got the Mex car/wMex plates w/mex ins & Mex DL. I’m on the ferry. Now I have gone once…Got robbed in my sleep as someone entered my motel room in Nyarit (but hey, they did’t kill me)
            Let’s put that aside.
            Gimee sum solisted advise, Where would you go if I were me?
            Wanna see Mich, oax, y chiapas etc..
            Come on you started it give me more advice! I really don’t think
            Chapala is for me. In spite of what you said, I really didn’t come to Mexico to hang out with gringos but it sounds comfortable.
            Come on Felipe, YOU stepped into it..please spill your guts a little to me please Sir. Thank you thankyou Thank you.

          • michael grosser

            Felipe, you slapped me up beside the head! Just what I needed so badly. Wow. I have been so kind and generous and humble and getting nothing but used in return. You have “removed the scales from my eyes”. Man I gotta get back on track. That’s the best slap in the face I’ve gotten in a LONG time. Thank you Thank you..now I am on the way to getting back in touch with myself. Man, I needed that! SALUDOS

          • michael grosser

            Felipe I have had with this chit chat chat room BS I am out of here. Should you be kind enough to talk with me more my e mail is greengrosser@msn.com if not OK no problem
            but this little boy is moving on. I so don’t need this crap it is a serious energy drain.
            If not thank you for your kindness. This is Michael Grosser signing off

          • No, my work is done here. Buena suerte.

          • michael grosser

            Felipe, Wow! I just digested what you said above. Wow, you really open my eyes! I had not looked at it that way. SI Senor. Hmmm, thank you.
            Now how to keep away from “poor mexicans” You plenty smart Cookie!

        • fricotin

          Go to Panama, they have a Pensionado plan like no other country, it is safe and they use US currency, after 14 years in Ol’ Mejico i am finally pulling the plug.

          • michael grosser

            Thanks man, yeah I’m studying Panama too, I just don’t have the jack to do much flying around to check these places out…as a “tourist” you don’t get to learn or experience too much. Are you going? Good on you!
            Best of luck, maybe c u there. Felize Ano Nuevo !

        • Phillip Trimbath

          Hey thanks for the response. I’d love to be out of here, but when you live on the dirtiest street in the dirtiest town in the dirtiest state in a dirty country, people really aren’t too interested in buying your house, and if they were, it leaves me asking your question, “what the hell do I do now? The last 8 years have been kind to my investment account, and the peso dying against the dollar have left me in good shape here, but not in good enough shape to live well in the US, and who the hell would want to live in a country that elected the asshole that’s President. Like you I’ve accumulated a lot of crap, and I care for 12 or 13 dogs every day, so moving anywhere is problematical. I here good things about Panama, but I heard good things about Mexico before I got here, so who knows. Mexico is definitely falling apart, and the really great thing is that Mexicans could care less. Oh well as long as there’s decent non Mexican food a half hour away and internet and satellite dishes, and lots of alcohol, I’ll survive.

          You’re right about the dead guy in Ixtapa. Safe to assume that a middle age guy wasn’t wandering the streets at 4 AM looking for a library He probably got drunk and flashed some cash, jewelry or both in a bar , some warm friendly locals decided to follow him and relieve him of it, he put up a fight, and bang you’re dead. It’s still sad, but good things very rarely happen at 4 AM

          • michael grosser

            Wow! I feel I have been contacted by a “brother from another mother” someone with genuine experience who knows WTF they are talking about. It would be great to speak more but not on this venue. Best of luck to you. Yeah Panama is on my short list too. I wonder if Latin American culture is so different elsewhere. Ah New Zealand! Dat;s the place Bro, such beauty and great funloving people…they do not encourage immigration pretty
            tough. If I had the cash I would be happy to live 6 mo a year. Airfare mucho dinero. Later Holmes. I get too much hate mail by telling people my honest thoughts or I wouold give you my e mail or phone…do you have a secret code? Again, thank y feliz ano nuevo. mg

      • Ge0ffrey

        So was the US under Obama’s leadership. Thank God for Donald Trump and the rule of law.

        • Well stated, Geoffrey.

        • zihuarob

          Who needs enemies when the USA’s own citizens blindly support an incompetent lying billionaire traitor seeking to become a Russian oligarch? The Chump has made the USA a weaker, more vulnerable and more dangerous place for its citizens than it’s ever been. China is now vying with Russia for world dominance while The Chump plays golf and tells lies that his soft-headed Chumplets believe and repeat unquestioningly. You folks praising The Chump shame the nation. You are its worst traitors. And your presence in Mexico shames us here as well.

          I bet the Chump cries like a baby when they lead him away in handcuffs (after having to change his diapers).
          https://youtu.be/d7Uy0Uznw4E

          • Ge0ffrey

            You’re going to be so disappointed, and maybe even shocked when it becomes apparent even to you liberals that the so-called “dossier” is a complete fabrication paid for by the Clinton campaign with help from the Obama administration which was used to spy on Trump during his campaign (a la Watergate), and was also used to start this completely fake and phony witch hunt “investigation.” Trump wants this Mueller investigation to go forward and so do all of us. Let’s find out what dirty tricks the Democrats are really capable of. It’s all coming out. (Getting debate questions in advance is just the tip of the iceberg.) P.S., Obama played 306 rounds of golf and cost the American taxpayers approximately $110,000,000 to pay for his vacations.

          • Ge0ffrey

            You’re going to be so disappointed, and maybe even shocked when it becomes apparent even to you liberals that the so-called “dossier” is a complete fabrication paid for by the Clinton campaign with help from the Obama administration which was used to spy on Trump during his campaign (a la Watergate), and was also used to start this completely fake and phony witch hunt “investigation.” Trump wants this Mueller investigation to go forward and so do all of us. Let’s find out what dirty tricks the Democrats are really capable of. It’s all coming out. (Getting debate questions in advance is just the tip of the iceberg.) P.S., Obama played 306 rounds of golf and cost the American taxpayers approximately $110,000,000 to pay for his vacations.

          • zihuarob

            You’ll need better lies. Those aren’t even being reported on Faux Snooze they’ve been so shot down. Mueller doesn’t need any “dossier”. He’s already got The Chump copping to obstruction of justice. But really who cares what traitors like you have to say? Pathetic and shameful that you’d attempt to defend such a reprehensible excuse for a human being.

          • Ge0ffrey

            On the contrary. Lindsay Graham is now requesting how this “dossier” was used to spy on the Trump campaign. Were you one of those “deniers” who scoffed when Trump accused the Obama administration of spying on him at Trump Tower? Pathetic? FU!

          • yowsuh123

            The dossier is now irrelevant…while a drunken, later guilty pleading George Papadopoulos informed an Australian diplomat that Russia had stolen HRC’s emails. The Trump campaign knew this before any of us.

          • Ge0ffrey

            Yes, yes, of course. Obama and Hillary were able to surveil Trump at Trump Tower because a drunk guy said something to an Australian diplomat. Good one!

          • yowsuh123

            Not Obama and HRC…the FBI. Bwa. PS: Thanks Australia!

          • Not So Funny

            You are missing the point. If Hillary Clinton turns out to be the devil herself it does not matter because your dipcrap is the President, not her!

          • Gandalf Greyhame

            Jeez, and I thought your first post Thanking God for Trump and the Rule of Law was the BEST SARCASM EVER!

          • yowsuh123

            Forget the ‘dossier’…We can thank a drunken George Papadopoulos being too generous with inside information while partying with an Australian diplomat who alerted intelligence authorities. Disqualifying information about Donald Trump and his campaign’s illegal contacts with Russia was deliberately withheld from the American people by the FBI and CIA. As voters, we were not given all the relevant information we needed to make an informed decision.

            While we were provided every scintilla of negative information about Hillary Clinton, large chunks of critical information about Trump were covered up or withheld. We didn’t even get to see his tax returns!

          • Ge0ffrey

            You think the Russians somehow got to Hillary and told her she never needed to set foot in the states of Wisconsin or Michigan? Maybe Trump and the Russians were really behind CNN and Donna Brazile giving Clinton the debate questions. Maybe the Russians made Hillary sick and had her collapse on 9/11 and filmed her being thrown into the back of the van like a sack of Ukranian potatoes. Maybe the Russians leaked the information (which the FBI was trying to prevent from telling the public) that Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch met for 30 minutes on the airport tarmac. No wait. Maybe you believe that Bill and Loretta were talking about their grand children!

          • yowsuh123

            My suggesting is to remove, at least temporarily, your skull from Trump’s rectum. It might help clear out your thought processes.

          • Ge0ffrey

            You’re going to be very very unhappy for the next seven years! You’re the one stewing in your own poop and flinging it like a yahoo.

          • yowsuh123

            Flinging poop is what made Trump president. All his supporters care about is pissing off people who disagree with them. Such a political philosophy, derivative of a World Wide Wrestling Federation match, cannot be sustained.

          • Ge0ffrey

            Trump stayed on message from beginning to end. He didn’t call his opponent’s supporters a basket of deplorables. What’s more, the Republican primary process was truly democratic. It wasn’t fixed. Nobody gave Trump debate questions in advance. He didn’t have to win six out of six coin tosses. He didn’t have the National Committee behind him as Hillary did, destroying her opponents. Liberals HATE democracy. That’s apparent. You didn’t get what you wanted, so, like Obrador and his supporters, you are camping out for two years in the Zocolo of your own mind until you get your own way. You’re going to be disappointed.

          • yowsuh123

            The 2016 GOP Convention in Cleveland…the one where they introduced the platform change…was SWARMING with Russians. Ain’t that American!

          • ss

            The stock market is up 25% since the election. I am laughing all the way to the bank.

          • yowsuh123

            Wait until rural hospitals and other businesses begin closing due to the Republican tax cut for rich people.

          • Ge0ffrey

            It was eight years of Obama policies that decimated rural areas, not Trump! And this was deliberately done by Obama. Starve the peasants. That’s the way it’s been done since Lenin and Chairman Mao. Rural areas are conservative by nature.

          • michael grosser

            Come on give the Trumpster a few more yrs!

          • Mike

            The higher that thing climbs the harder it falls. Anyone who is stock heavy better get ready for the recession coming and has historically taken place every time Republicans have tried to cut government expenditures and taxes.

          • michael grosser

            That’s great Donny Boy sed once he got elected he wud too busy to play golf. Check the numbers. SUCKERS

          • michael grosser

            jajaj did someone say “Golf” jajajajaj check the Trumpsters numbers
            “I won’t be playing golf once I am president” oh gawd oh gwd
            pleez check the numbers, He has made an ass out of himself and you,
            jajajaj & I am a republican only that I am NOT NOT NOT a fucking demo OMG jajajajajaj SUCKER! Please man check your facts, jajajajjaj
            R U rily rily dat phuckin STUPID! Seriously check the numbers
            you will be amazed and embarrassred and dissapointed and betrayed
            and what else? How about just FUCKING STUPID TALKING OUT YOUR ASS IDIOT MORON IMBECIL AHHHHHHHHHHH@!!!
            vacations????? Don’t even go there. You poor misguided lamebrain chump. WHAT!!????Facts don’t lie..why do you…because you are an ignorant kool aid drinking jerk, Gee I hate name calling but for you I will make an exception….. poor boy poor poor pitiful boy

          • Not So Funny

            The difference between us liberals and trumpigs is that when we find a rotten apple of ours we ditch them. You don’t. You will stand in your filth just because it is yours. You have proven you have no regard for your fellow Americans, the world at large or even your own self respect.

          • Güerito

            Horribly lame attempt at deflecting the issue here, Rob.

          • zihuarob

            I seem unable to find your criticism of the Chumplets for “changing the issue”. Hypocrite much?

          • Güerito

            A truly insane response.

          • Craig Rohmann

            Forgive the man……he’s an absolute idiot with a mind of his own.

            You’re a piece of shit Rob…….plain and simple.

          • Güerito

            ZihuaRob makes his living off foreign tourism in Zihuatanejo and Ixtapa.

            Based on his comments, it appears he’s having a nervous breakdown/mental meltdown with all the news lately about the violence in Guerrero and and how dangerous his area has become.

          • deplorableTruth

            ‘Hillary In A Landsldie’

          • Ge0ffrey

            “No clear path to 270!”

          • CelestiaQuesta

            That chump that you rattle on about is my president, President Trump. A white male heterosexual who honed his ‘Art of the Deal’ talents on the streets of New York and New Jersey. The one Bigly mistake coup plotters overlooked was who they were messing with. He’s basically told them to phuc off.
            Can anyone say failed Coup d’état by the Communist collective that we call the Democratic party?
            Now back to you bad hombre and your failed narco state Mexico. You bean brained wetbacks are nothing but light skinned cheap slave niggaz that the white man uses on his plantations.

          • Ge0ffrey

            I’m always amazed by the liberal gringos who are attracted to living in a country like Mexico which is a very macho culture with traditional family values (despite its flaws).

          • michael grosser

            Yeah and he wasn’t gunna be playing golf after he was elected because
            he would be too busy saving America. SUCKERS!

          • Realist

            yeah…..3,100+ shootings in Chicago during Obummers last year in office / 11.6 million more on food stamps / $10 trillion added to the debt / 7 million fell below federal poverty level and woo hoo….he got a “Peace” prize…

          • michael grosser

            NO no, wut he got wuz a “piece of the action” prize.

        • michael grosser

          If only it were just the Trumpster..how about all the career politcal hacks

          that have been in the house/senate for decades? I think they have a little bit to do with the problems. The 3 trillion in debt is sorta kinda their fault maybe.Great news Lady Di Fienstien is gunna run again too she will
          be about 109 yrs old at the end of next term. McCain, thank god he got re elected. We sure don’t want any new blood in there since these geezers have been so effective.

        • Not So Funny

          Erasing laws is not the same as implementing them.

          • Ge0ffrey

            Executive orders are not laws. You understand that, right?

          • michael grosser

            Ya know, you got a point there

        • bkkhkg

          Trump has broken the law multiple times. He has been sued for fraud and has surrounded himself with people who either under investigation or indictment. He is under investigation himself, likely for conspiracy and money laundering. Obama did none of these things.

          • Ge0ffrey

            Obama did four major things that were unconstitutional: 1) He entered an agreement with Iran without 2/3rd consent of Congress, 2) he entered the Paris agreement without 2/3 consent of Congress, 3) he unconstitutionally made the so-called “dreamers” legal which only Congress can do, and 4) against the First Amendment of the Constitution he tried to make the Little Sisters of the Poor pay for contraception and abortion contrary to their religious beliefs. Now you tell me exactly how Trump has broken the law.

        • michael grosser

          Brainwashing is alive and well…thanks I feel better about leaving.

          Is there really a difference between Obama kool-aid and Trump kool-aid? HEY LET’S TAKE TURNS PLAYING “GOOD COP-BAD COP.

          As my hero G Gordan Liddy would say “SUCKERS!!”

        • Not So Funny

          Using God in the same sentence with the name Donald Trump is an abomination. Your best defense for this pig is that you like him more than Clinton or Obama, which says far more about you and your support of this pig.

      • Jose Lima

        Thanks for the guns!

      • deertick

        It’s worse than that!! It’s just not safe to go there anymore. If you do, watch yourself every minute. See how much funyou have doing that !!

      • SteveGinGTO

        Please: Tell us how many U.S. tourists have been murdered in Mexico in 2017. If you don’t know, stop blowing it out your ass. How many U.S. citizens have been murdered in

        Chicago in 2017? (over 650)
        NYC? (286 as of Wednesday)
        L.A.? (271 thru Dec 16)
        Birmingham, AL? (37.2 per 100,00 in 2015 – almost DOUBLE Chicago for 2015)

        • Phillip Trimbath

          Actually you appear to be kind of stupid. The proper question would be How many Mexican citizens have been killed in the US. Before you start spouting statistics about murder rate, you should check Mexico’s

        • michael grosser

          and that has what to do with what? Please tell me what the price of eggs is in Hong Kong?

        • michael grosser

          You like statistics do you? Tell me what are the statistic on unreported crime? Duh? “three kinds of lies…lies, damn lies and statistics” Mark Twain was way ahead of his time…….
          Oh BTW that has what to with what? Help me on that one.

      • michael grosser

        Phillp dis little boy is moving on. I have so had it with this crap but should you wish to tawk at me its: greengrosser@msn.com

        This is michael grosser,signing OFF

  • cooncats

    Well, let’s see. From CA, the dope users paradise of America. Out on the street at 4AM. Sightseeing? Getting an early start surfing? Doing drug deals?

    • michael grosser

      No, actually he was on his way to the local orphanage where he volunteers in order to cook the kids a hearty breakfast and lead the prayer group

    • Kelly

      He was an avid surfer.

      • cooncats

        At 4AM????

    • michael grosser

      Hey cooncat persons I am out of here. Never to return. I so do not need the BS and this BS duzn’t need me but if you want to swap insults directly it’s: greengrosser@msn.com
      otherwise;it’s been real and it’s been fun but it hasn’t been real fun.
      signing off mike grosser

  • DreadFool

    bottom line, anyone out at 4 am deserves a bullet, as per moral majority in this “comment” section.

  • Mike

    I am up at 3 am every morning and off to work by 4 am. I have a job that requires me to be there early. I didn’t realize that so many people experience life from internalizing versus what it is like to experience it wearing someone else’s shoes.

    I am assuming by the article that is was not law enforcement who shot this guy dead, it was criminals. Yet, many think that he deserved to be killed because, A) it was late or early in the day B) he could have been doing something criminal or hanging around bad actors. Regardless of the variables, did he deserve to die and face scorn because of it? If that is what culturally is acceptable in Mexico, please don’t immigrate to the US. We have enough people who lack humanity or the capacity to differentiate between right and wrong.

    • Ge0ffrey

      I agree with you. However, there’s obviously more to this story, and we need those details to make a proper judgement.

    • cooncats

      This guy was a tourist. Did you miss that part?

      • Mike

        What is your point? He was a tourist doing what they do, trying to enjoy his time.
        Your point makes about as much sense as declaring the victim was wearing a shirt when killed.
        It adds nothing but noise to the discussion.

        • cooncats

          The point is your focus on your self and your story definitely adds nothing to the discussion and is not relevant. In today’s not very safe world, a tourist who makes bad decisions about personal security is more and more likely to end up dead like this one did.

  • Ge0ffrey

    I’m curious about how any Mexican nationals are killed in the US? Or
    how many foreign tourists? It happens in NYC with some regularity,
    usually to big headlines. Do we then have to extrapolate how horrible
    the US is? There may be 112 murders in the municipality of Zihuatanejo,
    but it’s a big municipality. With very few exceptions these murders
    are not happening in the hotel zone of Ixtapa or the centro of
    Zihuatanejo or any of the beaches there. They’re happening up in the
    hills, and they’re by and large drug related. Maybe someone can ask why
    the Obama administration gave automatic weapons to the drug cartels of
    Mexico? Was he trying to foment a leftist revolution in Mexico? A lot
    of people think so. Look up “fast and furious.”

    • Mike

      You are not curious or like I did, you could have looked up all your questions yourself.
      What you are doing is trying to justify and morally equivocate a victims death by deliberately stirring up unrelated comparisons.
      A.) An American died while visiting Mexico.
      B.) An investigation and apprehension of murderers should be the focus.

      • Ge0ffrey

        Oh? Please share. How many Mexican nationals were killed in the US last year.

  • 4 a.m., eh? Be interesting to know the rest of the story. I’m guessing he was no tourist.

  • Jeff Swanson

    It’s astounding the views here that it was this guy’s fault and he deserved it, but par for the course. When a “Tourist’,foreigner whatever you all want to make it to be, is killed in Mexico, why is according to you all it IS always their fault?
    OK so you clearly established this guy deserved to die, run down, then gunned down like a rabid dog, witnesses watching but NONE call the police of course, standard en Mexico, then the body is allowed to lay in the gutter (see foto) for 4 solid hours, no one does a thing, before some idiot Mexican decides to call the police, NICE!
    Wittiness’s report the man was chased down and “Gunned Down”
    I agree with only one thing here, being out at 4 am in Mexico, IS SUICIDE, safe as you all say it is, but you also say he was out partying, last I checked 99.9% of people WHO COME to Mexico, that’s the only reason and all they do!
    This guy WAS in the “hotel” zone, I think it was a mugging and he ran.
    You can buy drugs at your hotel day or night, rule that out. Prostitution IS legal in Mexico, they DO NOT walk the streets! There are “WHORE” houses everywhere, as well “Craig’s/Backpage” IS CHOCK FULL OF ADS” of girls who come to your hotel room, IF he was a “Sex tourist” he would know all of this!
    Guy COULD? have been out jogging or leaving a bar, spending his $$$$ en Mexico, as he is supposed to do for all you know. In the USA/Canada wanna know how many “NUTT’S” are out jogging at 4 and 5 am? LOTS!

    • cooncats

      No, he didn’t “deserve” it but at the same time he broke one of the cardinal rules of being safe in Mexico and he paid dearly for it.

    • michael grosser

      Come on down to Mexico then, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course there are a couple of tortured mutilated bodies hanging from it but I am sure you can explain that away too.

  • Jeff Swanson

    years ago there was a 15 yo American Girl gang raped on a beach in southern Mexico, by she calmed as many as 24 to 34 Mexican Males from teens to as old as 60, so she claimed.
    Actual posts when the “Evento” was reported, and most by woman by the way read like this:
    1) WHAT? was she doing on the beach???
    2) Bet she was wearing a “bikini”
    3) yea a string “Bikini”
    4) bet she was trying to buy drugs
    5) bet she was on drugs!
    Pathetic!
    How bout the Canadian Family, who had been driving to Mexico for 15 odd winters, car jacked, kidnapped, driven a 100 miles, terrorized in the jungle all day with threats of being machine gunned to death, eventually released, walked to the HI way where police were called, 8 hours later no police, were then driven to the police.
    Posters on that one read:
    1) they did not know Mexico (hello?” ah yea they did, 15 years)
    2) they did not speak Spanish FYI do NOT visit Mexico if you don’t Spanish you will be carjacked & kidnapped
    3) they were probable rude to a “C” store clerk or waiter (female poster) FYI when visiting Mexico do not be rude to clerk’s or waiters, you will be kidnapped and/or carjacked.
    Then same spot, days later a “Mexican” family met the same fate, their 11 and 14 year old daughters gang raped by 8 men in front of the whole family of 8, mom, dad, younger and older brothers, younger sisters & granny too!
    I post “it happened because they did not speak good Spanish, were rude to a waiter or “C” store clerk, post WAS DELEATED! Questions?

  • Gandalf Greyhame

    Thank you, citizens of Mexico! Great advertisement for never, ever traveling to Ixtapa to spend our hard earned dollars on vacation there. Or the rest of Mexico either, for that matter. Maui is the best and safest! Costa Rica is cheaper and also terrific, and safer than Meh-hiko. Mel Gibson and Tom Brady have hillside homes overlooking a gorgeous beach sunset in Costa Rica.

    • michael grosser

      I am so Phucking happy to hear that cuz if I had a do over I wouldn’t be here either. Much of the long winded blather I spew is to keep others from making the same mistake I did 15 wasted yrs ago. It’s not just to hear myself bitch and make a lot of enemies.
      I have dreamed of CR for years, but that fact that Tom and Mel and the high dollar boys have moved there makes me think it is too rich and Disneyland for this po boy.
      Best to you! Buenas suerte y Feliz Ano Nuevo!

      • cooncats

        Thank you for wishing us a happy new asshole. Check your Spanish, genius.

        • michael grosser

          Hey in your case I meant it hahahah Just joking, my spanish is poor and my typing is worse. OK Feliz Ano Nuevo (can’t make the wavy thing), Hey all I can do is try and if I were a genius I certainly wouldn’t be here. Best to you and yours my Dear Darling One.

          • cooncats

            15 years here and your Spanish is poor. And you are questioning my intelligence. LOL

            Next time just look at the avatar picture.

            Make sure your number lock is on, then hold down the Alt key and type 164. Like this: ñ

          • michael grosser

            Thanks,life is a learning process and I ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed else I wouldn’t be here. Hell I don’t even know wut an avatar picture is! I don’t remember questioning your intelligence…what did i ask it? True after 15 yrs and living with two different mexicanas and living in a neighborhood where thereare NO gringos (thank gawd)
            my spanish is embarrassing poor. What makes it even harder is that I

            can’t hear for shit anymore and if it wuzn’t for the cheap over the counter generic viagra, that wudn’t work anymore either! GAWD bless Dr Phyzer whereever you are!!!

          • cooncats

            Don’t feel bad about having difficulty hearing Spanish. It is the second fastest spoken language after Japanese. I read, speak and write it a helluva lot better than I hear it, even with two high powered hearing aids. Luckily my wife hears it much better than she speaks it so we work as a team.

            Don’t give up on Mexico but maybe it is time to move to a better neighborhood/area.

          • michael grosser

            yeah gotta luk into that hearing aid thing…a better neighborhood such as? If it’s a secret go ahead and tell me, I won’t tell anyone. jajaj

          • michael grosser

            Dang Coonperson I wuz all proud and chesty and gunna lay dat squiggly line thing on others to show dem how smart I wuz butt I tried wut u sed time and again and dif variations and it didn’t werk..guess I I gotta go back to being a “genius”

        • michael grosser

          Dang Coonperson , I wuz gunna sho foax how smart I wuz by usin dat squiggly line thang butt I tried it time and agin with various mods lyk U sed butt it didn’t werk so I guess I gotta go back to bean a genius

      • Gandalf Greyhame

        Not so. Mel and Tom’s hillside homes are above the Mal Pais beach area. There probably much cheaper housing around that area. We stayed a couple miles away in a rental home in Santa Teresa. Did not check out the prices, but the area is still very rural and looks low rent, mostly because of the heavily potholed dirt roads. Fair number of local Costa Rican tourists, and young not so rich hippie type Western tourists, as well as young Western hippie types working in the tourist businesses (e.g., our kayak guides, and the local restaurants staff in Santa Teresa had young people from the U.S. and Europe)

        • michael grosser

          Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback. CR is on my bucket list. You have given me encouragement.

    • Ge0ffrey

      You can compare Costa Rica to Mexico crime statistics across all categories through 2017 using the website n u m b e o. c o m. You’re going to be disappointed.

  • tiredoftaxes31

    Americans should shut down travel to Mexico. Its one of our favorite places to visit. We had a honeymoon in Ixtapa and was assured it was safe. Seemed pretty normal to me but we only left our hotel for one day to go shopping and to a beach. Mexico has issues for sure but look at Chicago… are we really going to compare these two? Personally, at 4 am I was in the safety and comfort of our Capella Resort – a truly beautiful hotel with outstanding service and the kindest Mexican staff we have met in our travels. The killings hurt tourism and these people rely on tourism to feed their families. The police need to get this garbage under control. Folks – when they say to not to go somewhere – don’t go there.

  • Karen Lee Manna

    Witnesses but no one reported it till 4 hours later.

  • CelestiaQuesta

    This rag must be written for expatriates reminiscing about how stupid they are for moving to a sheeit hole nargo state run by banditos. While you stuff your face with cheap tacos and piss in a bottle beer, we patriotic gringos are enjoying the greatest revolution since we kick the brits in the azz and won our independence.

    We’re not only making America Great Again, we’re going to build the biggest god damn wall since China’s Great Wall.

    • Ge0ffrey

      I live in both countries, and love Trump too. BTW, he says he loves Mexico, too. He has a lot of investments here, and he clearly distinguishes between legal and illegal immigration. “I love the Mexican people. I’ve had a great relationship with Mexico and the Mexican people,” said Trump.

      • michael grosser

        and sum of his best friends are negros, toooooooooo

        • Ge0ffrey

          Yes, yes. Play the race card. Marxist collectivists always play the race card.

          • michael grosser

            I hope that is a joke…I was just joking too. OMG any anything but the race card…no sir you so got me wrong on that…if only you knew me better we would both have a good laugh on that one

    • michael grosser

      Have you ever thunk of how much fun the Mexicans are gunna have phucking up that wall once (if ever) it is built. How are you going to protect that monstrosity. Mexicans are Gawds gift to destruction. Seriously foax I am all for it but I just don’t think it will stand for long. They tawk about going over it….how about blowing holes in it and tearing it down with beefed up 4×4’s etc. Mexicans are pesky little suckers, in case you haven’t noticed

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