The kidnapped agents in the video on social media. The kidnapped agents in the video on social media.

Jalisco cartel kidnaps two federal agents

In video they say they had orders to kidnap, torture, disappear targets

A video of two anti-kidnapping agents, who were kidnapped themselves a week ago in Nayarit, claims they were under orders to torture and kill their criminal targets.

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The federal Attorney General’s office (PGR) said Octavio Martínez Quiroz, 26, and Alfonso Hernández Villavicencio, 28, were kidnapped last Monday while on vacation.

They were taken from an area near the border with Sinaloa in a region where the Jalisco New Generation Cartel CJNG and the Sinaloa Cartel are embroiled in a violent turf war.

On the weekend, a video recording of the two agents showed up on YouTube, apparently recorded by the CJNG.

Martínez and Hernández, both agents with the Criminal Investigation Agency (AIC) who were assigned to an anti-kidnapping unit, appear kneeling with their hands tied behind their backs while four armed men, faces covered, stand behind them holding firearms.

Hernández reads a message that claims that they were deployed to the state by the Interior Secretariat with orders to carry out arbitrary arrests and make drug traffickers disappear.

The message said agents from the AIC and the Special Prosecutor for the Investigation of Organized Crime (SEIDO) had carte blanche to “torture, steal, kidnap and make our targets disappear, without respect for women, children or the elderly.”

The PGR confirmed the identity of the two agents after the video was published, stating that “as far as we know they are still alive.” It also said that no expenses or efforts will be spared in locating and rescuing Martínez and Hernández.

Source: El Universal (sp)

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  • WestCoastHwy

    Looks like two new recruits for the Jalisco cartel being Hazed!

    • marco esteban

      Sin verguenza! What an absolute DICK you are! Now go back home, worship your buddy Trump and then think about growing up someday! Only a true idiot would even attempt to joke about the horror those poor men are suffering. It appears you & Trump have something in common!

      • Cool Hand Luke

        Marco,
        Offensive as you might feel his comment is, the truth might very well be that they will be cartel sicario soon.
        Lots of evidence of former cops/army joining the ranks.
        “Join us or die”.

        • marco esteban

          Lo siento Luke. This was not a recruitment effort. By all appearances, it was Mencho speaking through actions and not words. And WCH’s comments were and are offensive, insensitive and outta line. And the truth might not be as you posit. I agree there is evidence of cops/military JOINING cartels. You only need to look at the number of military hombres who trained in the US under W’s SpecOps training plan for foreign services who jumped ship when they returned to their homeland. But “evidence” of any cartel employing a kidnap-to-recruit plan, ala SLA/Patricia Hurst, is scant, if any exists at all, except on FOX! But I have heard anecdotes of “join us or your family will die” recruitment strategies. But those are used more to keep the boys from going AWOL!

          • Cool Hand Luke

            Interesting that you promote many conspiracy theories of your own but disregard any that might be on FOX and your Trump comment. Tells me your position is not unbiased in your comments.
            You, however, contradict your own position several times within your reply with inconsistencies/inaccuracy. Eg: most heavy hitters within the cartels are trained by inhouse military/police services who flip sides for the money and the threats.

          • marco esteban

            C’mon Luke! That’s FOX 101; when your position fails, attack your opponent with your own “alternative set of facts”! And you did that quite well! Tell Hannity to give you a Gold Star!. I promoted nothing nor stated not one conspiracy theory nor one of my own. Nor did I write anything re “heavy hitters”. My sole intention was to call out WCH for being a pompous and callous jerk. As the article reported, these sicarios were under orders to kidnap, interrogate, torture and dispose of these agents. Spin that any way you like, but they weren’t levantado to retrain as sicarios for Mencho’s army. Unlike most FOX sheeple/viewers, I find their hyperbole and suppositions usually fail on facts and are easy to spot and thus disregard. I form my opinions based on fact and from the knowledge I gained during the 10 years that I lived in both Nayarit and Sinaloa. So if you find my opinions are biased toward reality, that’s on you and speaks of your own bias as well! Pero basta ya with just making stuff up!

          • Cool Hand Luke

            Stick with CNN – they’ve proven themselves to be truthful and honest – jajaja – yea right.
            You probably believe that Clinton and OB have clean hands in all this US corruption – must have – CNN tells us so – well actually they tell us nothing. but when they do – expect a retraction afterwards.
            Buenos noches
            PS wasn’t attacking you but simply pointing out your inaccuracies and inconsistencies, Truth can be hard to handle mi amigo. Be careful not so sound to pompous yourself.

          • marco esteban

            Luke, I thought this was just an exercise in rudimentary debate over a given set of facts. So I must commend you for taking it to another level and coming clean. You stated your personal demon so succinctly; “Truth can be hard to handle … “. But know you are not alone. You are in company with all of FOX’s audience as well as the 38% of gringos sufficiently delusional to give Trump a positive job approval rating! (Gallup News, 1/16/18). But know also there are many of us who love, live and seek the truth. For us, there is no other option. And we do not need an Orwellian mouthpiece to tell us what to think (CNN/FOX/NBC, etc.), because we have no problem independently researching a scenario and separating the “wheat from the chaff.” With that said, twice you claimed my posts contained “inaccuracies and inconsistencies” without even once identifying what they were. Again, from FOX 101; throw anything out there, just to see what sticks. And if repeated often enough … . Andele pues, Luke. Gotta run, the FOX & Friends Comedy Hour is coming on!

          • Cool Hand Luke

            Guess MDN doesn’t want me providing the link to the WashPost that shows Obama and Trump both having the same approval rating at the the same juncture of their terms.
            You will either have to believe me its the truth or research it yourself and still find its the truth.
            Somehow I don’t think Trump is really as concerned as Obama would have been – Trump just wants to honor his promises – Obama just made them.
            However, I find polls to be misleading and self-serving to suit their own agendas. For example: Hillary was a shoe-in to win. All the polls told us that, maybe with the exception of FOX. jajajaja

          • Lula Rodriguez

            Are any of you idiots actually a cartel member or have family in a cartel ? Are u all professors of “crime” or “cartels ” wtf ? U all speaking like u actually know what the fuck ur talking about. Internet thug’s, y’all should be the ones kneeling down reading a cartels message be4 being killed’ y’all all sound dumb ASF…..

          • WestCoastHwy

            Yes!

      • Mike S

        Good comment marco. I totally agree. WCH is a sicko.

        • WestCoastHwy

          Mike S, group mentality should be left for the Mexican Cartel!

      • WestCoastHwy

        This was a reply to a comment about Mexico creating a untouchable security
        force, “Mexico does have that untouchables group, they just keep showing
        up dead in the trucks of cars. I’ve been in and out of Mexico for over
        thirty years and it wouldn’t surprise me if Mexican Federal security
        agents would get wise and stop enlisting; it shortens one’s life faster
        than joining a Mexican Cartel.”

        Now this and the latter may be
        offensive to some but the truth is as CHL states, “Offensive as you
        might feel his comment is, the truth might very well be that they will
        be cartel sicario soon.
        Lots of evidence of former cops/army joining the ranks.
        “Join us or die”.”

        I have personally know PGR agents and I have not met one that wasn’t a
        total druggie. They always had the good stuff and plenty of it. But my
        point being, my relationship would always be cut short because they
        would be found dead in the trunks of their cars.

    • WestCoastHwy

      This was a reply to a comment about Mexico creating a untouchable security force, “Mexico does have that untouchables group, they just keep showing up dead in the trucks of cars. I’ve been in and out of Mexico for over thirty years and it wouldn’t surprise me if Mexican Federal security agents would get wise and stop enlisting; it shortens one’s life faster than joining a Mexican Cartel.”

      Now this and the latter may be offensive to some but the truth is as CHL states, “Offensive as you might feel his comment is, the truth might very well be that they will be cartel sicario soon.
      Lots of evidence of former cops/army joining the ranks.
      “Join us or die”.”

      I have personally know PGR agents and I have not met one that wasn’t a total druggie. They always had the good stuff and plenty of it. But my point being, my relationship would always be cut short because they would be found dead in the trunks of their cars.

  • Jose Zapata

    These agents are not recruits…what a stupid opinion

  • cooncats

    Obviously in this situation the hostages are going to say what they are told to say. Having said that, the behavior they are “confessing” to is certainly not new or unusual for government security (?) forces. Nor is it any secret that former government/military people “flip” to the cartels.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/mexico-drug-cartels-soldiers-military

    No better example of this exists than the Zeta Cartel stated by 34 ex special forces soldiers from the Mexican military.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-34-commandos-created-mexicos-most-brutal-drug-cartel-2015-3

    Having noted these realities, nevertheless it is premature to suggest or believe these two guys have flipped.

  • Garry Montgomery

    So, the cartel members are offended because the law wants to get rid of them? Poor babies.

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