This would be legal in some tourist destinations. This would be legal in some tourist destinations.

Marijuana proposal gets mixed response

Government says it is not in favor of legalizing its recreational use

A proposal to legalize marijuana in tourist destinations that was put forward this week by the federal tourism secretary has been met with a mixed response from other politicians.

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Enrique de la Madrid suggested Thursday that legalizing marijuana in Baja California Sur and Quintana Roo might help combat rising levels of insecurity in those states’ popular tourism destinations. He later said on Twitter that his comments reflected his own personal views.

Speaking yesterday at a state governments’ conference in Guadalajara, Jalisco, the new interior secretary said the Mexican government does not support the legalization of recreational marijuana use.

“Drugs are illegal because they are harmful to health, they don’t stop being harmful to health if they are legal . . . the federal government does not share [de la Madrid’s] approach . . .” Alfonso Navarrete Prida said.

He added that the government had made it clear that it supported the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes. He also said that specific security objectives for 2018 would be announced in the coming days and weeks.

In contrast, the governor of Jalisco said at the same conference that he was in favor of the legalization of marijuana use, but took the idea a step further than de la Madrid.

“. . . We need to start a debate regarding the legalization of marijuana. Not just in tourist places, but in the whole country, because what’s killing our young people isn’t consumption [of drugs], it’s the transportation and trafficking of drugs,” Aristóteles Sandoval said.

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He called on state congresses and all authorities to work together to confront a “reality that is exploding in our face.”

The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) governor argued that “we must abandon the moral high ground” because the insecurity problem requires an urgent solution.

Sandoval cited a joint study by the Norwegian School of Economics and Pennsylvania State University to back up his view.

The 2017 study found that the legalization of recreational and medicinal marijuana use led to a 13% reduction in violent crime in the U.S. states that border Mexico.

The governor of Baja California Sur — home to the popular tourist destinations of Los Cabos and La Paz — gave a mixed response to the legalization proposal.

“In principle, I’m not in favor of legalization,” Carlos Mendoza Davis said.

However, he promptly added, “but I must also say that it seems foolish and illogical that we’re fighting here with a strategy that costs lives in Mexico but magically, crossing the border, marijuana becomes legal.”

The National Action Party (PAN) governor called for further analysis of the idea and said that if the proposal is adopted, it should apply to the community as a whole, rather than just clearly-defined tourism areas such as resorts.

“. . . It would be very difficult to enclose these types of measures only in some areas of a community,” he said.

The three leading presidential aspirants have also made brief comments about the issue.

At an event in Veracruz yesterday, Ricardo Anaya, the pre-candidate for a PAN-led right-left coalition, said that he supported the idea of a debate on the subject.

However, the pre-candidate for the Morena party, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, or AMLO, refused to be drawn into the issue.

“No comment about it,” he said in Chiapas Thursday adding, “I’m not going to get into that because later they’ll accuse me of being supported by the Russians.”

In Hermosillo, Sonora, the pre-candidate for the PRI, José Antonio Meade, rejected de la Madrid’s idea that one law could apply to certain areas of the country and not others.

“. . . We can’t make a different public policy for different regions . . .” he said before adding that “there has to be a debate, a serious debate” on the issue.

Source: Milenio (sp), Reforma (sp), Nuevo Día Nogales (sp), Televisa (sp), El Universal (sp)

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  • HandyMan

    Just legalize marijuana and no more cartels needed. Go legal, be legit. Be smart.

    Solo legalice la marihuana y no se necesitan más cárteles. Vaya legal, sea legítimo. Se inteligente.

    • Vernon King

      Cartels are now selling meth here and it is a growing business which will replace the Pot business if it is legalized. Sorry but your argument doesn’t work as far as eliminating the cartels but I do think Pot should be legal.

      • owl905

        “it is a growing business which will replace the Pot business if it is legalized.”
        No it won’t. If anything, it will disconnect the consumer from meth dealer.

      • Güerito

        VK, I also support legalization of pot, and you are correct that legalization of pot leads cartels to focus more on the sale of other drugs, both in the US and Mexico. Legal pot means more heroin and meth and more violence:

        “As more U.S. states legalize marijuana, Mexican drug trafficking organizations are making up for lost business and profits by shifting their focus to smuggling hard drugs like heroin and methamphetamine across the border.

        The more you legalize marijuana, the more other drugs matter and become more profitable,” said Arturo Fontes, a former FBI agent and expert on Mexico’s drug cartels, in a phone interview. “And right now nothing matters more than meth, heroin. This is why we’re seeing such a bloody year.”

        So Mexican drug cartels have adapted by moving more meth and heroin through official border crossings, where smaller amounts of potent drugs can be concealed in vehicles with hidden compartments.

        Mexican marijuana has long been a staple for smugglers. And experts predict the disruption created by the rise of legal pot producers in more states will only lead Mexican drug traffickers to resort to more violence.”

        https://www.abqjournal.com/1111307/drug-cartels-shift-to-meth-heroin-at-the-border.html

  • They are debating the regulations for regulating medical marijuana right now in the congress. I have been reading some of the debates and initiatives. Within the next few months there should be dispensaries for medical marijuana.

  • the only organized sector of society is Mexico is crime, so id pot goes legit, they’ll have to rob more banks, o algo asi.

    • Fester N Boyle

      Exactly right. The marijuana industry supports the legal industry on both sides of the border. If it was done legally “the law” on both sides of the border would go broke. The peasants are milked for revenue so that the rulers can feast.

  • “Drugs are illegal because they are harmful to health, they don’t stop being harmful to health if they are legal.” Alfonso Navarrete Prida

    If all things harmful to health were made illegal, then Mexico would have to make alcohol and cigarettes and Coca-Cola illegal as well as many other popular but unhealthy choices. The role of government is that of balance. Which is more harmful … the adverse effects of drugs on the body of the user or the adverse effects of keeping drugs illegal. The illegality of drugs has spawned drug cartels. Drug cartels oppose legalization too as it would be their death nail. Lawmakers know this. But lawmakers also know that if the cartels go, so to will their monetary kickbacks from the cartels. When politicians oppose legalization, chances are they are only looking after their own financial benefit.

  • Güerito

    Last year the Mexican Congress balked at raising slightly the amount allowed for personal marijuana use, so this proposal is going nowhere.

    A serious proposal to legalize production, sale and use of marijuana doesn’t begin with the musings of a Secretary of Tourism…

    • Last year the Congress legalized MEDICAL marijuana in all of Mexico to take effect January 1, 2018. What many people, myself included, think will happen is that the pharmacies that offer a low cost consultation with a doctor will continue that practice with medical marijuana. You will be able to stop at a pharmacy, consult with a doctor and receive a medical marijuana prescription.

      • Güerito

        I saw your post above, but I really don’t think it’s worth following developments on a change in drug laws that will affect such a small amount of the using population. Less than 1%??

        • I am an attorney. I read the Diario Oficial every day and I read all initiatives in Congress. While I am specialized in industrial safety and environment, I read all initiatives presented in the Senate or to Diputados. I don’t see a legalization of drugs like cocaine, but they possession of small amounts have been decriminalized. There is very little prosecution of users or persons apprehended with small amounts for their own use. Because of the Supreme Court jurisprudence, any individual can promote an Amparo before a district court and will be granted an Amparo so that they can cultivate marijuana for their own use. I think few people are doing that right now because they are waiting to see what the new regulation for medical marijuana allows.

          • Güerito

            “Any individual can promote an Amparo before a district court and will be granted an Amparo so that they can cultivate marijuana for their own use.”

            Really? “Any individual”? “Will be granted”? For growing and recreational use? I think you’re getting a little ahead of things here, counselor.

            The law approved last year, and the amparos delivered prior to the enactment of that law, applied to cases of medical use of marijuana.

            Again, I don’t really want to get into an extended discussion of amparos or medical use because it’s largely irrelevant to the issue of general legalization of production, sale and use of marijuana we now see in many states in the US. And it’s even further from the larger issue of complete legalization that many comments on this site seem to be advocating.

  • Fred Jones

    IMO Cannabis is not a narcotic but a herb with medicinal significance. Cannabis has never killed anyone thru an overdose as it does not affect respiration. Hard to believe that people are still archaic after all the proven results that Cannabis is a benefit to mankind and has been for thousands of years. The US Government has a patent on Cannabis but it also continues to turn it’s back on the facts and the will of the people. Drugs are chemicals, designed and manufactured by man.

  • WestCoastHwy

    Is anything legal in Mexico? LMMFAO! If you have ever had the pleasure of being involved with what they call the Mexican Judicial system, you can get away with murder.

  • owl905

    A criminal record is more harmful to your health, your life, your options, than all the fatties you could ever smoke, all the brownies you could ever eat, and all the oils you could ever ingest.
    The health prohibition doesn’t stack up. It doesn’t stack up relative to all the other solids, liquids, and gases, that can put a Day of the Dead smile on you.
    The economics don’t stack up, and it isn’t just the bud – the plant is a cornucopia of economic value:
    “For thousands of years hemp was used to make
    dozens of commercial products like paper, rope, canvas, and textiles. In
    fact, the very name “canvas” comes from the Dutch word meaning
    cannabis,” – Nemeton, the Benefits of Hemp
    The last line of absurd defense for criminalizing and policing hemp is ‘the children’. Even that doesn’t stack up. Instead of protecting anyone at any age from anything, the supplier of the relatively benign hemp is also the source for the addicting death drugs.
    The only ones throwing out nonsense to keep hemp illegal are the dealers, the syndicates, the corrupt politicians, and the old school types. It was all built on misinformation about the plant, the effect, and the dangers.
    Oh, and Jeff Sessions. If you support giving criminal records to people who smoke pot, Jeff Sessions is your kinda guy.

  • Val Edwards

    why would the politicians legalize something that’s making them rich by keeping it illegal

  • djr4nger

    If marijuana is legalized in MX, could you imagine the cartels getting into the legal pot business? I’m sure they would want a piece of the action, but they’d have to up their game and start producing better quality than the common street weed. Of course, it’s expensive to actually grow high quality cannabis in a controlled environment. Meth, heroin, politicians and gasoline are much easier and profitable to control.

  • alance

    Once again Mexico shoots themselves in the foot. Cannabis users in the US and Canada will pick other tourist destinations where the herb is legal. When it comes to social mores, Mexico is at least a generation behind compared to the rest of North America, Europe and South America. It is pathetic.

  • Güerito

    What I’ve been saying for a couple years here. New LATimes article:

    With U.S. competition hurting its marijuana business, Mexico warms a little to legalization:

    “Widespread legalization in the U.S. is killing Mexico’s marijuana business, and cartel leaders know it. They are increasingly abandoning the crop that was once was their bread and butter and **looking elsewhere for profits, producing and exporting drugs including heroin and fentanyl and banking on extortion schemes and fuel theft**.

    “Avocados are a bigger industry than marijuana,” said security expert Alejandro Hope. “And the number of homicides connected to marijuana are very small.”

    Increasingly, **growers are moving on to other crops, such as poppies, which can be found flowering across violence-plagued states such as Michoacan and Guerrero. Drug traffickers are also switching to synthetic drugs such as fentanyl, which is easier to traffic than marijuana because it is much more potent, with just a few milligrams amounting to a fatal dose**.

    In the coastal resort city of Ensenada, 85 miles south of San Diego, Mexican police recently seized a drug shipment that included **100 pounds of fentanyl, 914 pounds of crystal methamphetamine, 88 pounds of cocaine and 18 pounds of heroin. There was no marijuana in the shipment**.

    “Cartels know their ability to compete in the U.S. marijuana market is diminishing,” said John M. Walsh, director for drug policy at the think tank Washington Office on Latin America. “U.S. consumers have better options.”

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20180127-story.html

  • Güerito

    LOL

    Washington state cannabis oversupply spurs calls for change:

    “Washington state’s cannabis supply continues to swell, flooding the market and causing both wholesale and retail prices to sink. ‘Right now we have about three times more product than we have retail sales,” said grower Steve Fuhr, who owns Toucan Farms in Shelton.'”

    https://mjbizdaily.com/washington-state-cannabis-supply-hits-new-low-spurs-calls-change/

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