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Mexico fires back at Trump on Twitter

Border wall-NAFTA link, 'shithole countries' trigger tweets

Past and present Mexican political figures took to Twitter yesterday to fire back at U.S. President Donald Trump after he made provocative comments about his proposed border wall and labeled some migrant-sending nations “shithole countries.”

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Mexico Economy Secretary Ildefonso Guajardo and chief NAFTA negotiator Kenneth Smith led the charge on Trump’s claim that Mexico would pay for the border wall through an arrangement built into NAFTA.

“Mexico’s president has been very clear: Mexico will never pay for that wall,” Guajardo wrote on Twitter.

It followed an earlier tweet in which he wrote, “Finished my day of work in Washington. Neither on this tour nor at any other time of the negotiation is the wall a topic for NAFTA discussions.”

Smith was equally blunt.

“Let this be clear: the issue of the payment for a border wall is not, and will never be, part of the NAFTA negotiations #wearenotjoking,” he wrote.

The scathing reactions came after the Wall Street Journal published an interview with Trump in which he said, “they can pay for it indirectly through NAFTA.”

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“We make a good deal on NAFTA and, say, I’m going to take a small percentage of that money and it’s going toward the wall. Guess what? Mexico’s paying.”

According to the transcript of a telephone conversation Trump had with his Mexican counterpart Enrique Peña Nieto in January last year, Trump was insistent that the Mexican president stop publicly declaring that Mexico would not pay for the border wall.

The president’s disparaging “shithole” comment about immigrant source countries including Haiti, El Salvador and some African nations provoked an even more direct and scornful response.

“@realDonaldTrump, your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world. With what authority do you proclaim who’s welcome in America and who’s not,” former president Vicente Fox tweeted.

Earlier in the day, during a meeting to discuss a bipartisan immigration deal with congressional leaders in the Oval Office, Trump reportedly said: “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

Fox continued his Twitter attack by reminding the U.S. president that his family had also once been immigrants.

“America’s greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant background, Donald?” the tweet concluded.

Fox, who was in office from 2000 to 2006, has been a frequent critic of Trump on Twitter.

He even managed to convert #FuckingWall into a trending topic on the social network after launching repeated rebukes at the president with the same central theme and tenor:

“Mexico is not going to pay for that fucking wall.”

Today Trump denied using the term “shithole countries.”

Source: Bloomberg (en), Independent (en), CBC News (en)

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  • WestCoastHwy

    My true respect goes out to President Fox. I had the pleasure of personally meeting President Fox in San Carlos. Unbeknown to many, President Fox has invested in some killer weed called Diego Pellicer and wants to allow weed to be included in NAFTA. I’m talking brilliant.

  • Trump says he never made the s-hole comment. The report, gleefully spread by the hysterical, flagrantly left-wing media, comes from third-hand sources. Not second-hand, mind you, but third-hand. It is fake news, again.

    And Fox is as much an embarrassment to Mexico as the hysterical media in the U.S. think Trump is.

    • Cam Nante

      Gee, do you think it’s just possible that Trump lied????again…..

      • Dave Warren

        In the words of David Crosby …”De Nile is not just a river in Egypt!”

        • Ge0ffrey

          David Crosby? Let me guess. You’re an expat with long scraggly unwashed hair and a dope smoker who lives on or near the beach in Mexico, knows about five words of Spanish and doesn’t have enough money to qualify for his permanent residence card.

          • Tom Steele

            Let me guess. You’re a tight assed jar head with short cropped hair that abuses only prescription drugs issued by thieving phrarma-bastards, while you look down you Trump-browned nose at other people thinking it elevates you…

          • Ge0ffrey

            I was right, wasn’t I?

          • Larry D

            You are a typical filthy white trash.

          • Ge0ffrey

            White trash? That’s racist!

          • Dave Warren

            I did have long hair and smoked pot about 40 years ago. Now I’m a professional tourist.

          • Ge0ffrey

            I’m a semi-permanent resident of Mexico. I love it here.

          • Dave Warren

            16 years here 6 months a year and I can’t speak Spanish…I understand it some. Just got back from 5 days in Huastecas area. Beautiful. Don’t go on weekends or National holidays. Going to Zacetecas soon.

      • BB

        Ha ha ha! Think, Cam? The man lies daily. I guarantee you he’ll own most of the real estate in hell.

    • Commander Barkfeather

      Sorry, but Senator Dick Durbin, and others who were at the table, have independently verified that he used the term “several times.” Those are first-hand sources. This is beyond dispute. This is not fake news. By the way, Trump’s personal attorney paid $130,000 to porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about their sexual affair, one month before being sworn in. This man has always been, and will always be, a complete and utter reprobate. Time to wake up.

      • Not according to the news sources I’ve read, so we’ll have to agree to disagree. Fact is, no one will know for sure without a voice tape, and even then.

        But the bigger issue that the nations in question are precisely s-hole countries. Sad but true.

        • BB

          Did you know some of those “s-hole countries” purchase most of your American products so Americans can have jobs? Check You-tube on the distribution of Coke and Pepsi in Africa. You’re just another Trump bigot spilling shit with no sense of Economics. Do you think US companies sell most of their products in the US? Check on the outlets of Walmart (even in Mexico), McDonald’s, Taco Bell, etc. Don’t you realize it’s this international distribution of products that American’s depend on to maintain their lifestyle? The US has good universities. You should do a business course.

      • Larry D

        The Trumpanzees are dead in the water.

        • Ge0ffrey

          Are you wearing your p-u-$-$-y hat as you write, snowflake?

    • Larry D

      Trump will always be remembered as the shithole president. Another Trumpanzee!

  • Ge0ffrey

    I’m probably in the minority here because as an American citizen I like both Donald Trump and Vicente Fox. Respectfully, however, I would like to encourage Sr. Fox to read his own country’s very strict immigration rules because they can be boiled down to three three basic rules: 1) a foreigner cannot take any job that a Mexican can do, 2) in order to become a permanent resident you have to a provable income or resources, and 3) no foreigner can get involved in politics. That’s what we want!

    • Tom Steele

      You have that exactly. I was an Irish citizen living in the US. It was hell. I had a master’s degree from Duke U. If there was a job available, the company could not hire me until they advertised for an American applicant for an entire month and no one had come forward. Which company had the time to wait a month to hire me? I paid taxes but could not vote, I had to maintain a costly H-1 Visa or be deported or jailed. I had to be able to support myself too. The problem is you Americans have no idea what your government is doing. Last time I tried to visit the US I was put in cuffs and held 11 hours, because the border ICE idiots’ computers thought I still had my Green Card which I had surrendered years ago. Then they would not let me enter anyway even though there is a no-visa agreement between Ireland and the US. You speak from a place of ignorance.

      • Ge0ffrey

        There’s more to your story. I wonder what you’re not telling us.

        • Larry D

          America is a war based military nation. When the U.S. dollar loses it’s global dominance the rest of the world will no longer have to pay for their way of life. There is a lot of good people in America as well but now things are overshadowed with the shithole president.

          • Ge0ffrey

            Good Lord. Are you writing from Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea?

          • BB

            I guess you really think that Equal Opportunity Employer is real. Have you ever showed up to apply for a job and didn’t even get to fill out the application? Have you ever been given a standing interview outside of the hiring manager’s office only to be told those positions advertised in today’s paper are all filled?

          • Ge0ffrey

            Have you ever looked at help wanted ads in Mexico? Men only. Women only. No one over 30. Etc.

          • BB

            Just letting you know it’s no cake walk for immigrants in the US either.

          • Wanda

            Our shythole president can be replaced. How are you going to replace a whole shythole country? Ya can’t.

      • Larry D

        This stuff happens all the time but most Americans know absolutely nothing about their own immigration laws they just bitch and whine about everything.

        • Ge0ffrey

          …says the bitcher and whiner….

    • Jim Anderson

      You hit the nail on the head. I have lived in Mexico for over 12 years and can get Resident Permanente Status but when I tried to become a legal resident so that I could own my property, I ran into a brick wall of Government stupidity, double-speak, and Bureaucratic bumbling that was unbelievable. Even the attorney who was supposedly the real expert in this whole process seems to see it as having gone into the hole.
      But every country has the right to determine what they want to allow in terms of immigration.

      • Larry D

        More lies.

        • Ge0ffrey

          Really? Enlighten us.

      • You cannot purchase property within 100 km of the border or 50 km from the coast unless you have Mexican nationality. You can only purchase it through a trust (fideicomiso). Not all attorneys have immigration experience and many attorneys and government are not familiar with the new immigration law. I imagine you probably tried to obtain Permanent Residency by going to INAMI (immigration) and each person you talked to gave you different requirements. That is because in order to change your immigration status from Temporary Resident to Permanent Resident, you must leave the country and go to a Mexican consulate outside of Mexico. However, if you have lived 12 years with a Temporary resident visa (you probably use to have an FM3 Visa, which no longer exists) you can change your immigration status from Temporary resident to permanent resident fairly easily, or you can request a letter of naturalization from the Secretary of Foreign Relations (Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores) and obtain nationality (after completing 5 years with a visa). Then you can buy property wherever you want. It sounds like you need a good attorney. Legally immigrating and becoming a Mexican national is not difficult and Mexico has a very good immigration law. If you have bad information or ask the wrong person for help, you will continue to be frustrated.

    • Larry D

      Mexico has the easiest and fastest immigration laws in the world. Get real, the lies get absolutely sickening.

      • Ge0ffrey

        Really? Enlighten us.

        Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

        Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

        Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will
        be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary
        funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

        Foreigners may be barred from the country if their
        presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when
        foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,”
        when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when
        they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be
        physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

        The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the
        admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national
        interest.” (Article 38)

        Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

        Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal
        immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of
        illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

        A National Population Registry keeps track of “every
        single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and
        verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

        A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists
        and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique
        tracking number (Article 91).

        Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

        Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

        Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature
        that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are
        subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

        Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

        Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

        Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to
        re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to
        10 years. (Article 118)

        Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be
        sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121).
        Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico —
        such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

        Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says:

        “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three
        hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who
        enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)

        Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

        Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

        Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

        A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of
        helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years
        in prison. (Article 127)

        Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

        • BB

          So Americans are going to take those $5/hr jobs Mexicans do in the US? Let’s face it. Americans are not going to wash dishes in a hotel, or make the beds or clean the floors. All the big construction firms in Miami say they’re now behind schedule on their projects because they can’t find qualified and/or experienced laborers. Oh wait, I guess you’ll make the hotels pay $20/hr for washing dishes so Americans who really need jobs can work. Ain’t gonna happen!

          • Ge0ffrey

            They won’t be $5/hour jobs (btw, what jobs are those) after the illegals leave. Wages will have to rise.

          • BB

            What company can afford to $15/hr to wash dishes in a restaurant, change bed sheets in a hotel, or clean floors in a business office? Or are those jobs going to disappear?

        • Your citations are from the immigration law that was abrogated in 2012 and replaced with a new law. Immigration used to be part of the “Ley de Población” but all of the section of that law related to immigration was cancelled when the new immigration law took effect in 2012, “Ley de Migración”. The new law has no criminal penalties for immigration violations, not even for false documents. I have seen these citations before and they are not correct. If you go to http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/index.htm – you can download a current version of the Ley de Migración and you will see that not one of your citations is correct. It is not that difficult to legally immigrate to Mexico. You can obtain a visa to live and/or work in Mexico for various reasons. If you are retired, you can obtain a resident visa by proving income of about 1500 USD from outside of the country (rentista). You can set up a Mexican corporation and offer yourself a job running your company (inversionista). You can marry a Mexican citizen. If you have children born in Mexico, you can obtain a permanent resident visa and nationality in 2 years. You cannot be hired legally without a visa, but if someone wants to hire you they can give you a letter with a job offer and you can obtain a visa based on that. Employers cannot have more than 10% foreigners, but that does not apply to management.

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