A highway in Chiapas: beware highway robbers. A highway in Chiapas: beware highway robbers.

Thieves attack tourists on Chiapas highway

Busload of 25 German visitors was robbed near Palenque

A security operation to protect travelers on highways in Chiapas did nothing to prevent the robbery Saturday of 25 German tourists en route to Palenque.

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The 25 visitors and their two Mexican guides had been traveling to the popular destination from San Cristóbal de las Casas when they were stopped by a blockade in Oxchuc, where residents are protesting last year’s election results.

The driver decided to take another route instead, although it meant adding 214 kilometers and six hours to the journey.

One of the passengers told the newspaper El Universal that they were met by a Federal Police patrol in Ocosingo, from where they had a police escort as far as Misolhá. At that point they were advised that another patrol in Palenque had been advised of their route.

But they were attacked before the police arrived.

Seven masked men carrying firearms and knives stopped the bus and boarded it, taking cash, credit cards and other belongings worth an estimated 25,000 pesos from the passengers.

One of the thieves took a passport but returned it when the traveler pleaded with him do so.

The thieves fled the scene and the bus got under way again, although within five minutes two Federal Police patrol vehicles arrived.

A formal complaint was filed later with state officials in Palenque.

The state announced last week that a new security operation would attempt to prevent attacks on travelers, particularly between San Cristóbal and Palenque.

Source: El Universal (sp), Diario de Palenque (sp)

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  • Güerito

    Mortimer Snerd, call the office.

    • MortimerSnerd

      What office?

      • Güerito

        LOL, I was thinking of you when I read this and was hoping you’d comment!

        • MortimerSnerd

          Gawd… the cops in that area… is there a word for incompetence… this has been going on for months now… it wouldn’t take a lot of ‘investigating’ to figure out whose doing this… what the hell are they afraid of? Or are they part of the problem

          • Güerito

            Sounds like it’s been going for years, really. The only possible conclusion is that the cops are in on the take.

          • Evelyn

            Of course they are. do you know what their salaries are? About $10 a day. They have to supplement their income. and tourists are good targets and have more than they deserve and have haughty attitudes those gringos so they only get what they deserve you know, cabron.

          • NealinNevada

            I see that you have taken it upon yourself to decide what people “deserve” and what is a proper “attitude”…do you work for the government?

          • Evelyn

            NealinNevada I was speaking with what I hoped was clearly irony. Perhaps I didn’t pull it off too well. It is a frustrating situation to try to express the difficulty of traveling or living in a Country with an oppressed underclass. That doesn’t excuse violence or robbery in my mind, but maybe it does in theirs. I’d imagine so. People under pressure push back at others and see things only from their own point of view and from their point of view tourists and especially gringos are the oppressors.

          • NealinNevada

            I missed the irony Evelyn, my apologies.

          • SickofLiberalbs9999

            She’s saying the robbers believe the gringos deserve to be robbed.
            I think she’s right, no?

          • SickofLiberalbs9999

            ……

          • G.b. Adams

            Because the cops are probably in on it.

          • SickofLiberalbs9999

            probably – no
            definitely, 100% – yes

          • gaymex1

            Not saying you’re right. Not saying you’re wrong. Just curious. Do you have any proof at all to back up your allegations?

          • SickofLiberalbs9999

            You’re right, I’m generalizing based on many previous reported cases of collusion,
            so this case could be the exception.
            But does this sound like a hard crime to solve?

  • MortimerSnerd

    This is the exact same place and probably the same 5 creepy banditos that attacked me in my car just over a month ago coming down the same road, highway Mex199…. 50km from San Cristobal …I luckily escaped… barely, by driving backwards at high speed… 5 guys, in black clothes wearing balaclavas, 1 with a gun running after my car is the stuff that makes for nightmares. We reported this to the military checkpoint and the police… it appears they have done nothing to investigate and arrest these perps… Stay away from Mex199 or your liable to get robbed… they appear to operate with impunity.

    • Güerito

      Thieves target buses on Chiapas highway – Avoid traveling at night, warns seasoned adventure traveler

      https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/thieves-target-buses-on-chiapas-highway/

    • Tina Somers

      So did this happen then on the route through Tuxtla and Villahermosa?

      • MortimerSnerd

        No Tina… between Pelanque and San Cristobal de las Casas, Mex199 exactly 50km from San Cristobal up toward Pelanque… there was a road milage sign 1/2 a km from where it happened.

        • Tina Somers

          Thank you for your reply. In your opinion then, the route from SC to Palenque via Tuxtla-Villahermosa is safe (on a pre dawn bus)?

  • Berynice

    Yeah, this happens once a year almost. Or five times in the last 10 years – but mostly in the last three. Glad nobody got hurt – they don’t usually anyway.

    • Tom Hammerton

      Sometimes this sort of thing is just some locals trying to get some money to pay their electric bills or a couple of bottles of tequila. Pickpockets and muggers in Atlantic City are more dangerous.

  • jdwfinger

    I bet the police were part of it, come when it is over, take statements, then take their cut

    • SickofLiberalbs9999

      The police were late because they met the bad guys to take their cut BEFORE arriving to help the victims.

    • Tom Hammerton

      Donald, is that you?

    • Evelyn

      yeap

  • WestCoastHwy

    Chalk another one up for the Hillbillies!

  • K. Chris C.

    Looks like the gun and badge thugs are part of the the banditos’ upline.

    An American citizen, not Us subject.

    • Tom Hammerton

      Maybe not a “Us” subject, but you seem to have some U.S.A baggage!

    • MortimerSnerd

      Chris is a troll on many forums… he blathers on about nothing.

  • SickofLiberalbs9999

    Mexico needs 100,000 + new, professionally trained police.
    Why spend billions on new highways and infrastructure when no one can safely use the new roads?
    Since the entire country is completely compromised and corrupt, I would suggest foreign mercenaries who are in no way connected to Mexico – and pay them enough so they can’t be “bought” by the cartels, or the government.

    In the US, we have the “highway patrol” – they are on the roads 24/7, as we’ve all seen.
    Mexico deperately needs more police presence on its highways – isn’t it obvious?
    The only highway patrol that exists in Mexico is the criminals, “patrolling” the highways looking for easy victims.
    Rural Mexican roads today resemble “Mad Max” lawless Hollywood fantasies – but all too real for poor victims.

    “Federal Police arrived 5 minutes after the bad guys got away.”
    It took longer then expected to divide the “take” with the robbers, before arriving to “help” the victims.

  • SickofLiberalbs9999

    Can’t we just read ONE story of the Mexican bus driver or foreign tourist who, after being pulled over by 5 robbers –
    pulled a shotgun from under his seat and methodically executed all five (while they pleaded for mercy)?

    THAT would be the best Mexican story of the decade – maybe of the century.

    • Henry Wilson

      What…..do you think this happened in the US where people are still allowed to defend themselves from criminals? No such thing in the perp paradise of the narcostate of Mexico, my friend.

      • SickofLiberalbs9999

        Where’s Mexico’s “Highway Patrol” when you need it?

    • RickDrake

      Couldn’t just one conservative think of another alternative other than violence? Why the glee when killing people while they beg? If you had a valid point, then violence would have already made Mexcico and the world safe.

      • SickofLiberalbs9999

        I guess it’s just a desire to see these criminals finally experience what they put other people through – it’s not that hard to understand, is it?
        Isn’t mexico a living example of the problems of disarming the population?
        If you have a gun in Mexico, you can do anything, with no resistance.
        After you’re finished with your crime spree, the cops will take a report.
        Makes me sick. My family is there.

        • RickDrake

          “If you have a gun in Mexico, you can do anything, with no resistance” Not true.The USA has been working for years with Mexican authorities to help them change their entire criminal system and get rid of Napoleonic Law, which does give more rights to criminals than in the States…but only a few Mexican States still use the Napoleonic laws. And it is a bit difficult for me to understand you wanting to put people through a horrific experience. I was in an armed robbery in CA and I have no desire to teach anyone anything.

  • SickofLiberalbs9999

    “One of the thieves took a passport but returned it when the traveler pleaded with him do so.”

    See, these guys are not hardcore criminals – they’re just opportunists.
    When a government is so inept and corrupt as to leave it’s country’s rural highways with no police or security presence – criminals can’t resist.

    New, beautiful, wide open, unpoliced highways, filled with “targets”.
    If you’re a criminal – it doesn’t get any better than this.

    • MortimerSnerd

      When someone is pointing a gun at you, you have ta assume it’s loaded and they are prepared to use it…maybe, maybe not but don’t give us that ‘not hardcore criminals’ bit

      • SickofLiberalbs9999

        sorry, of course they’re serious to be doing armed robbery, but
        my point is that the government and police are absent, and
        the crooks know it – if mexico had a “highway patrol”, a constant police presence on the highways, the criminals would look elsewhere for victims….
        crooks go where the police AREN’T – why aren’t the cops on the highways?

  • Henry Wilson

    Perhaps the most dangerous stretch of road in Mexico and has been so for years. The longer way around from SCLC to Palenque via Villahermosa is much safer.

    • Tina Somers

      It sounds like that’s where it happened though?

      • Henry Wilson

        No the direct route is through the mountains and goes through the town of Ocosingo.

        • Tina Somers

          Thanks for your reply, but it sounds like it happened in Misolhá, “they had a police escort as far as Misolhá At that point they were advised that another patrol in Palenque had been advised of their route. But they were attacked before the police arrived.” Isn’t Misolhá past San Cristobal on the long route, through Tuxtla and Villahermosa? Sorry I’m not overly familiar with the area.

          • Henry Wilson

            No. Misol Ha is a waterfall very popular with foreign tourists, in the municipality of Salto de Agua, just off the road about 20 kms from Palenque on the way to San Cristobal. The fact they were abandoned by their “police escort” shortly before being attacked is highly suspicious. In all liklihood the cops were in on it. Happens every day in Mexico.

          • Tina Somers

            I guess I just have to remember, before taking the bus to Palenque, that many busses make the trip every day and the odds are in our favour, right?

          • Henry Wilson

            True……especially during daylight hours.

          • Tina Somers

            Do you think the pre-dawn (6am) bus is still pretty safe. I guess it’s an hour or so before sunrise.

          • Henry Wilson

            I have taken it several times and never had a problem, except of course with the usual rude attitude of the bus driver. But you get that everywhere in Mexico so it should not be a problem. It has been a few years however for me so I would suggest asking around to see if any others have had problems.

  • gypsyken

    Another report that makes me very sad. I traveled between San Cristobal and Palenque several times years ago. I’ve visited Ocosingo while the Zapatistas were in charge of it, in order to visit the Maya ruins at Tonina. I’ve stayed at Agua Azul, one of my favorite places, several times, and I’ve also driven to Bonampak. I encountered ropes across the highway where donations were sought, but never violence, and I never felt unsafe. It just makes me sad that I can’t do these things now. I began traveling in Mexico in my motorhome in 1993, spent every winter there from then until this one (2016-17), and stayed there year-around from 2003 to 2016. Now I’m afraid to go back.

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